Episode 122 – UFC 249: Ferguson vs. Gaethje (Preview)
There’s more than just two championship belts on the line this weekend, the health and safety of fighters is on the line, and the reputation of Dana White and the UFC are all on the line as the criticized promotion attempts to host the biggest card of the year UFC 249 in the midst of a COVID-19 pandemic. We discuss the implications of the event, key headlines in the MMA World, and make our picks for the entire UFC 249 card.
Ryan Smith 0:08
Welcome to combat sports talk a podcast dedicated to UFC ambulatory discussion the MMA community and combat sports in general. I’m your host Ryan Smith and joining me this week is the entire crew. The combat sports talk team you got john keys.
John Keyes 0:24
Hey, what’s happening everybody?
Ryan Smith 0:26
All right, you got George g money stalwart. Oh no. And you got Casey Collette you own yay Buchi.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 0:40
Ryan Smith 0:50
I wasn’t expecting that.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 0:53
I definitely wouldn’t in the scripts.
Ryan Smith 0:57
The Lionel Richie impression was not in the run sheet.
John Keyes 1:02
All right. Good way to start off the show. All right,
Ryan Smith 1:06
it is awesome. We got a great show for you guys tonight. This is a show that should have been a common occurrence it should have happened on April 18. It probably should have happened back in March and that is a UFC pay per view preview show UFC 249 is taking place this Saturday in Jacksonville Florida
John Keyes 1:29
bump bump bump
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:30
John Keyes 1:33
Ryan Smith 1:36
John Keyes 1:38
George Stallworth 1:40
we were at was going to be real dude. Yeah
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:43
we did y’all thought that
some of us Yeah. We
yeah speaking French
John Keyes 1:52
just saying allegedly people because they we’ve seen this. Get we get all excited like Yes, yes. And then now
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:58
I want to know Vegas is taking a line on the number of fighters who catch COVID after this event. Wow.
John Keyes 2:05
I mean, I went dark
Kelechi Onyebuchi 2:07
right out the gate, I’m sure yeah, Vegas, you can bet on anything. Yeah.
Ryan Smith 2:12
Yeah, I think that that’s gonna be the case. But let’s get into it. I mean, this is the thing that really everybody’s talking about is UFC 249. Will they or won’t they? Let’s get into our headliner. All right, this is our headliner. This is where we talk about the number one topic of the day and that is UFC 249. That is our headliner. There’s a lot of things talking about it that everybody’s saying, will they or won’t they? How many people are going to get sick? Is this going to be a feather in the cap of the legend of the UFC? Or will this be the beginning of the end? Because it’s going to go terribly wrong. So I really I I’m hoping that with Everything that Dana White is putting on the line here that the the, the fact that he is going and putting himself out there, I hope that he’s successful. I really there’s there’s a confluence of things that make this just the perfect storm, which I really think they’re gonna pull it off because you’ve got a starved fan base like people who are just dying for any sport at this point. So you’re going to bring in fans from outside. And then you’ve got Dana White, who enters his core. He’s a showman. He likes to put on a great show. So he almost can’t fail. At this point. We are starved for anything like people have been watching Marvel races. So he can’t go wrong here. I think the bar is really really low. And so he’s gonna knock it out of the park. But so john is the thing for me is that his success, just high ratings or his success, high ratings and no occurrences of COVID-19 after the hour After the event
John Keyes 4:02
Not only is it both of those but not only do you want to have you know high ratings no no type of COVID occurrences but you want to make sure that the fighters are going to fight we cannot have any stalling fighters on that card okay because the fact you have one stalled fight is going to bomb alright it will it’s a make or break all right we got to bring the heat if they’re going to do this they can they got to come out. I mean literally they have got to come out the gate running into the senator ring just swinging they only have to no technique, no nothing for the first 1520 seconds and then they can go back to technique then they can proceed on but if they if we have like a Derrick bronze and black beast type fight where they’re just standing around and it is certainly each other. It’s not gonna work.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 4:53
So we just need Justin he in every one of the fights.
John Keyes 4:56
Pretty much. Gotcha.
Ryan Smith 4:58
I got him in one We got just we’ll do our we’ll do the fight pics and everything at the end of the show with this card. The cool thing about this card is that we are so starved and there’s been so many cards that have been canceled, that we have basically an opportunity to see a who’s who have UFC fighters in one card. That doesn’t happen, you get like three or four really good fights. But this is this is something like six, seven, maybe eight good fights on one card, it’s gonna be totally worth it to purchase this one. And I think Dana White is definitely counting on that.
John Keyes 5:37
And hold on, hold on to your seats people, because not only are we having one great fight this weekend, but then on Wednesday, we’re getting another great fight. And then on the following weekend. We’re getting three we’re getting three fights in one week and we can’t cover it. Yes, sir.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 5:54
Does it hurt the sport at all that this is a paid fight versus come one. Come on. Well, just the number of eyeballs that you can get on this, like, yes, people are starving for this and are gonna throw money at it. I think pay per view buys are gonna be fantastic. But you could get even more fans by not making this a pay per view. Okay, go ahead, try giving one away.
George Stallworth 6:19
I don’t know, well, the premiums and the pre. So I think that’s going to do a lot to bring those fans in. And typically from what I what I’ve already seen, since they’ve been on this pay per view model, they use the prelims to entice people to go ahead and purchase the others. So yeah, so that’s definitely what I see is going to happen with this one because the cards so stack, once you start watching the prelims you’re gonna be like, I got to go ahead and pay the $65.
John Keyes 6:49
And understand that the prelims he stated, are three and a half hours, that’s a pay per view in itself. So you’re getting for those who, who didn’t pay, you’re gonna get a great pay per view. Out of the prelims for those that did pay, you might as well start barbecuing early cuz you’re gonna have yourself a pet, you gotta have yourself a UFC party a
Kelechi Onyebuchi 7:11
Ryan Smith 7:15
punch up a loser.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 7:17
So we got to remember, there’s no room for propinquity in this current setting,
Ryan Smith 7:23
George Stallworth 7:27
got the dictionary
John Keyes 7:30
Ryan Smith 7:42
that that word is like a 270 point word propinquity. It’s got a cue in there,
John Keyes 7:49
the more you know.
Ryan Smith 7:53
Find it propinquity
John Keyes 7:55
Okay, so here we go.
Ryan Smith 7:57
Word that word or what’s the origin In other words, please can use it in a sentence.
John Keyes 8:05
You have a sentence, he kept his distance as though afraid propinquity might lead him into temptation. That is the sentence I kid you die from.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 8:16
That was a weird read, bro.
John Keyes 8:19
I’m looking at Okay, leave it to the internet. Okay,
Kelechi Onyebuchi 8:22
well, we could have just said nearness.
Ryan Smith 8:24
Okay. Okay, so we met the qualification of smart podcast. Can we get back to funny?
Kelechi Onyebuchi 8:34
I mean for those watching video, they’ve got your face so we’re good to go.
George Stallworth 8:44
We already get into when people
John Keyes 8:45
Ryan Smith 8:49
Kelechi Onyebuchi 8:51
no, no, no,
Unknown Speaker 8:52
Ryan Smith 8:54
You don’t get it now, Casey.
John Keyes 8:57
Look, I’m taking off my gloves. The
Kelechi Onyebuchi 9:01
views expressed in this podcast do not necessarily
Ryan Smith 9:06
listen. I know that you haven’t read the run sheet yet. So, so you don’t know what’s coming for you.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 9:15
Oh my god, we’re about to change that real quick.
John Keyes 9:20
For those who really want to know propinquity means the state of being close to someone or something. pross proximity.
Ryan Smith 9:28
Okay, there you go.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 9:31
I’m making a smarter
John Keyes 9:32
now. Now made the tomfoolery continue. All right,
Ryan Smith 9:36
so not everybody is happy about UFC 249 happening. And so let’s go through some of the some of the comments. Some of the people the naysayers, if you will, the ringside physicians, they were really against having any events going on right now. But now they’ve kind of taken a step back, and they’re saying, well, while it’s impossible to eliminate all risks, if people are Making the the types of precautions that they can that’s available to them, then, you know, they are going to support that. And so I feel like Dana White has gotten, you know a lot of his ducks in a row getting you know some of these guys in support, he is having fully staffed corners, and they are going to be approved for UFC 249. Now you can’t bring your entire entourage, but you can have your corner so that means that you can have a full corner for UFC 249. We talked about it in a previous episode, that what it would be like fighting without anyone in your corner or just one person in your corner, which I wanted to ask George. George, this is for this questions for you. Of the three people who is not you on combat sports talk. That’s cholesky that’s john and myself. If you could only have one person in your corner, who would you put in your corner?
John Keyes 10:54
Wow, no pressure here. All right. I got
Kelechi Onyebuchi 11:00
Just remember Ryan can’t fight.
Ryan Smith 11:03
Ryan can’t fight but he’s got two wins over Casey. So
Kelechi Onyebuchi 11:07
I’m gonna be away from my keyboard real quick.
I’ll be right back. Okay, I would I would wait for this answer and then I’ll return.
George Stallworth 11:18
You know, that’s a hard one to decide. I know KC strain MMA. And let’s talk first what kind of fight is this? Uh,
Ryan Smith 11:29
well, you You are a Muay Thai fighter. Okay, so let’s go with a movie. It’s a Muay Thai fight.
George Stallworth 11:36
Casey has training. I would say the intelligence factor and the ability to understand someone clearly would coincide with Ryan. Oh
Unknown Speaker 11:49
George Stallworth 11:51
And if I needed to
Kelechi Onyebuchi 11:52
buy a dum dum
George Stallworth 11:59
sometimes in your corner you need someone who’s got some banter or the ability just to bring you back to reality or make you laugh or just you know something a wake up that would definitely go with john. I’d have a difficult time but if I want to win the fight
John Keyes 12:16
he wants to win the
Kelechi Onyebuchi 12:18
ryan set this up just so he could take another w today.
Ryan Smith 12:24
Well, y’all are poisoning the well because now George’s honorbound not to make that happen. Like
George Stallworth 12:31
I’m gonna give you my honest answer.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 12:33
Also, he’s a Philadelphia Eagles fan. I just need you to know that. Use that.
George Stallworth 12:39
key to victory. Victory.
Ryan Smith 12:48
JOHN keys George picks john keys for his corner. I am. Can’t believe I can’t say I’m not shocked because I am shocked. But
John Keyes 12:58
I’ll accept that for the simple fact that In a fight, when you’re in there, nothing changes your mentality, like getting punched in the face a couple of times. You need somebody to keep you grounded and rooted and stick to the game plan. That’s what I bring. I’ve read a little bit of hilarity. And I’ll bring you back and I take gone and stomp stomp a mudhole No,
George Stallworth 13:21
I can see me walking back to the corner. JOHN, turn around, you know, you get your butt whipped on that one. Right.
Ryan Smith 13:30
So we’ve got we’ve got comments coming in from the audience. Sonia Gutierrez, she is telling us about the more you know.
George Stallworth 13:41
Shots fired across the browser.
Ryan Smith 13:43
Camille Beasley says Good evening to us all so good evening to you, Camille, and looks like we got some Philadelphia Eagles haters in the bunch because someone says when sucks so got one fax
Unknown Speaker 13:59
what you got there, buddy.
George Stallworth 14:01
Yeah, I need to look up and see what’s going on. Yeah, yeah.
John Keyes 14:05
Turned Upside with
George Stallworth 14:10
a full frontal facial
Unknown Speaker 14:15
can’t be on.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 14:18
Nobody gonna take out this belt from me.
Ryan Smith 14:22
So, yeah, so so anyway. So anyway, all I know is that Casey took the belt and left the state. That’s all I know.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 14:35
Hey, so are you publicly announcing our rematch?
Ryan Smith 14:38
Unknown Speaker 14:41
Ryan Smith 14:44
I but but I will say that the official record is Ryan is undefeated versus glitchy on gay Buchi. So, there you go.
John Keyes 14:55
Okay, so you know, you say what you said and then you say People need to watch the video The video is out there on YouTube people all they have to look for is on your Bucci versus Where’s vs. Smith? There’s a one and another to
Kelechi Onyebuchi 15:12
go find it. Just watch two one didn’t count because I literally fought three days before.
Ryan Smith 15:17
Whatever excuses. Yes. short notice fights are real excuses.
John Keyes 15:24
I’ll just say I watched how many days
Kelechi Onyebuchi 15:28
before that I punched him.
I was literally still icing myself the morning of our fight.
Ryan Smith 15:37
I had I had him turning and running in the ring. I had to I had to backup often because but we had an agreed gentleman’s agreement that if someone looked hurt that we wouldn’t go in for the kill.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 15:48
So I hadn’t you shouldn’t hit in the first place. I was still injured from a previous fight.
John Keyes 15:53
No, no, you can’t do that. There you go.
Ryan Smith 15:55
Tell it Tell him George. Tell him.
John Keyes 15:58
Tell him if you jump in my head. Sironi mindset
Kelechi Onyebuchi 16:04
I just got
John Keyes 16:05
it sir. I’m sorry you cannot use that. You just you should just hit him you should be
Kelechi Onyebuchi 16:11
using that defense. Let’s all go over to intelligent defense on on Facebook and see what those comments say about who was what we thought about Sironi showing up but not showing up.
Ryan Smith 16:24
hmm oh six he’s trying to change the subject. Now you brought up the bell. And now you want to change the subject when it’s not looking good. See that? I’m gonna let you see what
Kelechi Onyebuchi 16:33
happened was I’m
Ryan Smith 16:34
gonna let you throw in the towel. There you go. Let’s get back to the show. How about that?
Kelechi Onyebuchi 16:39
Yeah, let’s get to it.
You don’t worry about me. Let’s do a show.
Unknown Speaker 16:47
not worried about you.
Ryan Smith 16:50
Yeah, I just remember I just remember you left the state flabbergasted
John Keyes 16:56
I do to make it make it your profile pic. I dare you. Okay,
Ryan Smith 17:04
my first picture on Bumble. See, here’s the bad thing. Here’s the bad thing like, no, if you’re listening to this podcast right now, you have no idea what’s going on. So let me let me tell you. He went he left the camera left the screen came back with my belt that I read that he was given after I beat him in a tough man competition put on by a radio station here in Dallas, Texas. And they handed him the belt even though he did not win on the cards. And therefore he probably took that belt left the state and has not come back to Texas since. So there you go. There you go. That just lets you know that the champ is here in Texas. The belt is is is being kidnapped and held hostage in Colorado.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 17:56
I am so aware. We’re an undisputed bout unifies about
Ryan Smith 18:01
so there is a lot of belts on a UFC 249 there are a lot of fights that are planned. We got two championships on the line. And so everybody’s upset about this and the Florida Governor is Governor desantis is saying, Listen, you know, I wanted this to happen, and I’ve been lobbying for this and people. People need this. But the problem is, is that as of Friday, Florida had 33,000 confirmed cases and 1200 68 deaths. That basically, there are concerns that that Governor desantis is being irresponsible about how he’s bringing the UFC in. There’s an epidemiologist that they interviewed that bloody elbow interviewed and bloody elbow is one of the sources where we get our information, and he said that they are not ready in Florida. Basically he’s saying that travel that There’s threats to the people when they travel to the venue, when they travel away from the venue, the number of fights or the number of content, because they’re doing three fights in one week, that’s going to create issues, locker rooms going to be issues. And what he’s saying is that they need to test as soon as they arrive, which is going to be a challenge because there’s three events in one week. But the UFC is testing everyone. They have announced or they haven’t announced but what they’ve done is that they there’s an email that went out with all the procedures that they are going to be doing at UFC 249 and that means that they are going to be passing the fighters have to pass a diagnostic swab. That’s that six inch in your nose and antivirus antibody core of Coronavirus test in order to compete
John Keyes 19:50
that that that swab is like this long this long, and it’s gonna go all the way up to the right Val here. Okay, it’s I’ve seen videos of military personnel taking it and if not pretty, now we’re about to find out who’s the real and Wayne okay?
Kelechi Onyebuchi 20:11
Imagine getting all the way there to the fight venue only to discover this you were asymptomatic but still a carrier for COVID-19. Like, that’s got to be absolutely devastating. So it’s I’ve seen a lot of what the precautions are that are going to be in place and I think as much as I am not a fan of this happening I also believe that people are gonna people so let them do them. It just, it’s also just hard to pair that with the knowledge that we have enough tests to get all the fighters tested. We don’t have enough to make sure that health care professionals who need to be tested get tested. Okay,
John Keyes 20:52
let’s let’s look at it. I mean, I’m saying like
Kelechi Onyebuchi 20:57
the UFC just manages to pull resources In a way that it’s just questionable at best.
John Keyes 21:03
Well, it’s not like that the UFC President is good friends and on the County Economic Council for the president right about about getting back from back recovering from a Coronavirus. It’s not like they’re not having at UFC event in the President’s new home state. Remember he’s not a New Yorker no more. He’s a Floridian and it’s not like that, you know, he’s trying to what’s the word a put on a pomp and circumstance and that the word great, everything’s fine, everything’s fine. This is Murphy’s laws dictated very well. No plan survives initial contact. I will, I will. I will have these fighters and their crew and the entire UFC personnel in my prayers.
Ryan Smith 22:00
What Wait, you don’t even
John Keyes 22:04
I am known to pray from time to time. Okay?
Ryan Smith 22:08
Like, you don’t seem like the kind of guy that that would put anybody in prayers because of the the word prayers.
John Keyes 22:17
You know, one thing you’re gonna learn is that there’s no such thing as an atheist in a foxhole. Okay, first of all, I’ve met
Unknown Speaker 22:24
a couple of them they were ready to die. You don’t want to be
Ryan Smith 22:29
basically the the Gracie train. Oh, those are all atheist and they because they’re all ready to die.
John Keyes 22:36
They ready to die. That’s that prayer for that victim.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 22:43
Speaking of prayer for victims about these face covering
Ryan Smith 22:46
Yeah, so you can get UFC branded face coverings available for order and, you know, what I wanted to do was actually show what those face coverings look like look at john putting on his face coverings. So actually, these are the UFC face coverings and I gotta say they actually look really good I’m impressed.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 23:11
Okay UFC fight
John Keyes 23:14
looks good fight Good. I’m glad they look good but are they effective is the question well I got the face masks right here this thing is very effective because you could I’m not gonna light a flame look
Ryan Smith 23:27
a lot more attractive I will say that
John Keyes 23:30
well docile and you know
Kelechi Onyebuchi 23:34
John Keyes 23:38
I’ve just said but these things right here is the easiest way to test the effect of not light a match blow if you can blow out the match while you got this face mask on. It is not good if you have a hard time or cannot put out a match with with while blonde with this on. It is a good mask. Use the mask okay? I love Amanda love camera. Okay, if I can get this camera I’ll be in hog heaven right now, but if it’s not effective I do not want
Kelechi Onyebuchi 24:10
did we just get another The more you know moment?
Unknown Speaker 24:13
Yes you did. Okay wow man
George Stallworth 24:18
a candle with a face mask on you throw it in the trash bass.
Ryan Smith 24:22
So shout out to Zack Bigelow he’s watching on on YouTube right now he says, we got to make some money somehow you know and
John Keyes 24:30
Zach is 100% correct.
Ryan Smith 24:32
The expensive life but the great No, I think he’s talking about the face mask and the face mask all the proceeds are going to are going to charity. So yeah. It’s a it’s it’s three masks. You get three masks for $25 it’s actually a pretty good deal.
Unknown Speaker 24:51
But are they fashion?
George Stallworth 24:52
Ryan Smith 24:53
Go look at them. Make it COVID COVID but make it fashion. All right, let’s get into fighting the angles.
This is where we look at some of the other headlines that are going on besides UFC 249. And so I’m gonna go ahead and skip Bob Arum ripping Dana White calling his cowboy behavior dangerous because he did and we’re gonna get right into debating America men off urging people to respect locked down orders as Coronavirus cases spike in Russia, as of course you know that. The reason why we’re having Justin Gachi versus Tony Ferguson in this fight is because Habib de mergo Madoff, one is stuck in Russia into its Ramadan right now and so he is not in a position to be able to fight and so with the cases spiking in Russia, then he is urging people to observe the NPI, the nonprofit mystikal interventions like social distancing, and self isolation, which will, which will flatten the curve. And what he’s saying is, is that the hospitals are full that they’re they’re, they’re they’re struggling with with supplies, a lot of the same things that we experienced here is going on in Russia as well. And so he’s urging people using his platform to try to encourage them not to go out.
John Keyes 26:23
Is this a jaw rule moment? Everybody’s listening to jaw to try and get his perspective on the situation. was like, that is a stretch. Yeah. Like I don’t know if you follow Dave Chappelle, you know exactly would I be
Ryan Smith 26:40
John Keyes 26:43
you know, I mean, I’m glad that Habib is doing the responsible thing and doing that, but we need medical personnel we need CDC, we need world World Health Organization from anywhere any legitimate person There’s a health professional that is on this on this investigation, we need to hear from them. Forget the politics, you know, depend on the humanity I need more humanity and morality in this situation. Give me the people that know. Well.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 27:20
This goes to me to Kirby being like a true champion, like he has always been the embodiment of what martial arts was about. Like, when he fought Korea, he made it very clear that he wanted to do this with respect and honor and no matter how it ended, the two men would respect each other. And so he he has been the champion that always reflects the highest levels of honor when it comes to martial arts. And I think this is in keeping with that, where he’s saying, like, I’m valuing public safety and health above all else, and we should do the same. And so while Yes, we need the the informed decision or the informed conversation from these Well credentialed healthcare providers, we also have to remember that most Americans in particular, and though he’s speaking to a different audience, but I can speak from the Americans perspective, we listen to celebrities, far more than we listen to the credentialed individuals. Like there are people who have doctorate degrees that are telling us to stay inside. And we’re listening to a person on the internet saying knots a hoax. So maybe we need more celebrities to tell us what to do, because we’re not listening to people who are credentialed.
John Keyes 28:29
Or maybe we get the celebrities to have a doctor like six feet away from say, Hey, Doc, what’s going on, man? Why don’t you tell them what you just told me, and then let the doc takeover? I mean, we’ve
Kelechi Onyebuchi 28:41
done that with wartime propaganda since shoot forever. So it’s an effective means to to have a celebrity give the message versus a trained professional. So This to me is along the lines of when people tell LeBron to just stick to basketball. Like I think we are whole individuals and we have to bring our wholesale from everything that we do, and this is a part of cubby or Habib sorry that he really respects the decisions that these healthcare providers in his country are saying and he wants to keep as many people safe as possible. He gone speak
John Keyes 29:17
you know what you’re right you’re right. Cuz you know, after all, Captain America did tell people to buy war bonds. And did he turned around and say, liberated man from a castle that was held by the red scuffle. Yeah, preach on midway is
Ryan Smith 29:33
easy, relatively speaking. Is he referencing referencing Captain America? You know, I thought we I thought we were already done with talking about DC Comics.
John Keyes 29:42
Oh, okay. We said we shall we shall not talk about this. Okay. Yeah, here we are.
Ryan Smith 29:50
Everybody’s, everybody’s doing it tonight. Like you done open a Pandora’s box. Everybody’s getting it, but I’m not coming for George because you And I’m not coming. I’m not coming from George because George punches so hard he knocks himself out
John Keyes 30:07
a story there ladies,
George Stallworth 30:08
it’s true. Elbow actually. Thank you Ryan.
John Keyes 30:10
Okay, so we’re gonna have after the bell moment and we’re gonna have him tell that story. Okay, that’s long enough short.
Ryan Smith 30:17
Yeah, that would be good to do after we do it after the bell extra segment. That’s a good story to tell if you’re willing to tell it George. Now,
George Stallworth 30:25
Joe’s story but I mean
Ryan Smith 30:31
we are not going to make it to this. This This show is going to be like I spent all that time putting this rushy together we’re not gonna make it through. So, uh, so, beam network I’m in office, urging people to be safe and don’t, you know, put themselves in danger, except for one dude, where it’s a Russian MMA fighter who is a rapper who made a video dissing Habib in America Madoff and why He’s walking down the street five dudes jumping.
Unknown Speaker 31:04
So first mistake was,
Ryan Smith 31:06
yeah, don’t call him at all. Not in not you don’t call him out in rap and you don’t make a video, disrespecting him the way that the video disrespected him because he’s got folks. I will call him out on his basketball plan and we all seen that. But it’s called Dagestani basketball.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 31:26
I still dunk on him.
Ryan Smith 31:27
No you won’t. That’s a guarantee you will not dunk on Dagestani. come at you, boy. For those of you who haven’t seen it, Dagestani basketball is basketball, except you don’t dribble. Basically you run with the ball and they will tackle you as you’re trying to get it. And if you’re not careful, they will not only tackle you but they will submit you with an armbar or a choke in the middle of the basketball court.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 31:58
And that’s how Draymond Green learned To play basketball.
Ryan Smith 32:02
That is not my cord that I would ever want to get on.
John Keyes 32:07
Man. Leave man leave it to ESPN The Oh to come up with the best stuff ever. I do Joe. Oh my gosh.
Ryan Smith 32:16
So so goes off the rails. So speaking speaking of speaking of rappers, Tyrone Williams.
John Keyes 32:23
Kelechi Onyebuchi 32:25
aspiration as we all
John Keyes 32:26
know, so we’ll take that weekly.
Ryan Smith 32:30
Okay, I’m trying to keep this show on the rails. You guys are like, gone. So tired. Tyron Woodley is, purports to be a rapper? allegedly.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 32:44
And Tyron right, like that’s my champ. Come on, Sam.
John Keyes 32:48
Hey, you don’t want that smoke, man. Okay, he got that extra hair beard going we can be honest.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 32:55
He’s a terrible rapper that high runs work versus our trash. Yeah, that’s Take them as a fighter but
John Keyes 33:01
hold on okay. Okay, so I’m gonna be the one that had the awkward opinion that I’ve heard trash lyrics like from ice JJ fish and I’m a 21 savage and we’re at Lil Yachty once you get to those what not once you get the ice JJ fish if you think tyronn would these lyrics are trash? Sir, you are a slob. Okay,
Ryan Smith 33:30
let me let me say like this, just because there is worse trash than Tyron Woodley doesn’t make his lyrics any less trash.
John Keyes 33:39
I’m just saying like,
Ryan Smith 33:40
Look, this is the this is the bar for trash. Tyron Woodley is here, and little uzi vert is here. It still doesn’t meet the level of not trash.
John Keyes 33:51
But if you’re sitting in a few sin and you’re escalate, and your boys got a man, want to hear this good music, and he’s got two CDs. That’s the
Ryan Smith 34:00
That’s three fingers.
John Keyes 34:01
Okay, we’ll give you three and you’re on the European side of the game. If he gives you three one is a little Yachty wants ice JJ fish and wants Tyron Woodley, you better believe I’m saying, Man, pop in that Tom. I want to hear that and
Kelechi Onyebuchi 34:17
we can wide silence.
Ryan Smith 34:22
I’m like NPR, please.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 34:26
Anywho so what’s,
Ryan Smith 34:27
what is the tea with Tyrone Woods. So with Tyron Woodley, here’s the thing that’s going on. Tyron Woodley is trying to find a fight he remember he was supposed to fight, Leon Edwards, and that fight fell through in London, which Tyrone really didn’t want to fight that fight anyway. But then Colby Covington spoke up and Tyrone was like, forget Leon. I want Colby Covington Colby Covington isn’t gonna fight Tyron Woodley because he doesn’t hold a belt. Then Tyron Woodley decided that he wanted to go and get after Israel out of Sanya start talking smack his ex
John Keyes 35:01
Go ahead continue on and
Ryan Smith 35:03
and so if he’s hopping from person to person trying to pick a fight trying to get a money fight and Camaros man, it’s just like, dude, just fight. Anyone right now is just fight like don’t worry about who your fight knockout people in front of you just so you can get back in the ring get back on that letter. And so and so Tyron Woodley is like I you know is you’re out of Sanya is starting to speculate that maybe Tyron Woodley needs the money fight because he needs the money.
John Keyes 35:34
I think it’s fair, but at the same time, he I listen to tyronn talk about that. He said he didn’t call out Israel, he he was asked the question, would he fight Israel for the belt and he’s like, I will knock Israel out.
Ryan Smith 35:55
Okay, then he called out Israel out of Sanya.
John Keyes 35:57
No, no, that’s not a call. He said. It doesn’t matter who you You’re sitting right here next week. It feels my best friend feels anybody he if they asked him would you fight him right answer, you know, I’m a knock them out. No. Was he
Ryan Smith 36:13
is he might give me No, I’d probably start off with easiest 185 pounder I fight 170 so I let me worry about people in my weight class, like car salesmen like Kobe Covington. Like
Kelechi Onyebuchi 36:27
you were all about selling fighters there is no way that that earns Woodley a fan like Not a single fan.
John Keyes 36:34
That that asked you
Kelechi Onyebuchi 36:35
to take a seat, sir.
Ryan Smith 36:36
was not last time he fought.
John Keyes 36:39
He might as well got knocked out by JJ at this point. Okay. Something like that. Okay, you cannot say get knocked out.
Ryan Smith 36:50
JJ Evans. Are you me, JJ?
John Keyes 37:01
But seriously, he cannot you cannot sit there and say, Hey, this fight over here, would you knock him out? And you cannot. What are you gonna say? You gotta say I’ll knock him out. I will knock him cold out, smooth out. I will knock that man out, move out. Okay, it’s like the rest of what I want to say. We’re family friendly.
Ryan Smith 37:25
to the viewers that are watching. Do you think Tyron Woodley should have called out Israel out of Sanya. Do you think he should have shown some respect? Or do you think he should have been like I should wouldn’t knock him smooth out like which? What do you think? type in the comments? Let us know what you think.
John Keyes 37:38
It was not a call out. It was a question he answered.
Ryan Smith 37:42
Yes. And then you move on. You don’t have to say I will knock him out. No, you know,
John Keyes 37:48
he didn’t. He didn’t. He didn’t relish on he didn’t stay on. He’s like, knock them out and kept going.
George Stallworth 37:53
So my my thoughts on Tyra I go back to a couple of years. years ago when a lot of people felt like Dana White was hating on Tyrion and catching the bad, you know, a bad break when it came to the way he’s being promoted and things like that. And now I transplant myself two years later and I think about it and I don’t feel as bad for Tyrion anymore as I did back then when when a lot of people felt like he was being Miss appropriately handled by the UFC. He Tyrone’s wounds are very much self inflicted their way, you know,
Kelechi Onyebuchi 38:30
yes. You know, yes. I disagree. If you look at when he was originally upset with Dana White, Dana White would literally go out of his way to bring up Woodley and press conferences and be like,
Unknown Speaker 38:42
no one wants to find love
George Stallworth 38:45
is self inflicted.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 38:47
Yeah, that’s fine. But
on his own,
John Keyes 38:53
so alright, so you’re saying that tyrant tyrant did not actively pursue any fight. Cuz I mean even when he was champion, he was having problems getting fights.
Ryan Smith 39:04
Yes. That the problem is is that he had a fight he had Leon Edwards and Leon Edwards is ready to fight. Leon Edwards is the top 10 fighter and he is coming up. He hasn’t lost in I don’t know how long for him.
John Keyes 39:21
He actually, he actually, yeah, at a press conference, which was no ref or anything like that. But now his record is solid.
Ryan Smith 39:28
Yeah, so so it’s a good fight for Tyron Woodley. He lost the championship by this last fight. He was outclassed by tomorrow. You got to take that fight. So for him to not only not take the Leon Edwards fight after it got canceled, but then to start courting Colby Covington and then to start getting into it with with Israel out of Sanya, and you know that he’s that he’s hard to book a fight with anyway. Like, I agree with George he is these are self inflicted wounds and I agree with Camaros when he’s saying just Fight the next guy up. People need to see you knocking folks out. That’s what he does. But it doesn’t matter how many times you say you will knock someone out if you don’t actually get in the ring and knock someone out.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 40:15
Yeah, just think that the problem is that this isn’t a great fight for Woodley. He has a chance of getting beaten by Leon and then his career’s effectively over
Ryan Smith 40:22
didn’t need a title shot
John Keyes 40:24
Yeah, yeah, the your career is effectively over Okay, that’s the whole point of the fight game. You got to go in there and prove who you are. right all right. If you if you come in there, and you say, with your with your song, what’s your theme song? I’m gonna knock you out. Then you need to go in there and go knock somebody
Ryan Smith 40:42
out. Otherwise you all talk
John Keyes 40:46
and you and then you then not only did you get knocked out in your careers away, but your but your, your your workplace. Your backup plan is
Ryan Smith 40:56
you know, that’s that’s probably why he needs the money is because somebody had to buy all those albums. Ah,
Unknown Speaker 41:05
Kelechi Onyebuchi 41:05
You’re not wrong. Um,
Ryan Smith 41:11
so, so we were talking about Anthony Smith and the home invasion before the show, so it seems like he’s not the only one that’s getting into situations where weird things happen and requires MMA fighters to have to use their martial arts to defend themselves. Have you guys heard about what happened in Luke? rockhold?
George Stallworth 41:36
Yes, he got attacked by a zombie basically. Yeah.
Ryan Smith 41:41
So basically he’s out walking his dog walking down the street and I think it’s Santa Monica or something like that. And I think he’s got a little dog to be honest. I know he got a little dog little dog I mean, he’s a model so
John Keyes 41:56
Yeah, exactly. What kind of model is he sir? He’s underwear model but Please continue
Kelechi Onyebuchi 42:02
to hate for no reason.
Ryan Smith 42:08
You were the same brand. I mean,
John Keyes 42:11
come on. Everybody’s getting up. It’s my job to know these things. I’m here. Right, you’re right.
Ryan Smith 42:20
Collect you started something and now I’m having trouble stopping it. So anyway, uh, Luke rockhold is walking down the street with his dog. And this lady is sitting at the bus stop. And he’s like, she looked kind of weird when she was on meth or something like that. And as he’s walking his dog past her, she jumps up, runs at him and starts looking like she’s gonna hock a loogie on him. And he’s like, what the hell and he front kicks or
Kelechi Onyebuchi 42:53
misses and takes a right hook to the head and went down just like no, no, no.
Unknown Speaker 43:00
He said he said he
Ryan Smith 43:01
soldier of God got him again. He hit her with a front kick. And she was landed on the ground knocked out quivering. Like she’s a vampire in the sun.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 43:11
I feel like that extra part
Ryan Smith 43:12
is what makes it not okay. He and and he said that he didn’t have his phone on him because he was charging it and he didn’t think anything was gonna happen. He’s like, the one time I needed my phone. I didn’t have it. So he basically just walked on. And it was like, like, he said, like, it was like a movie.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 43:28
So I just came up with a cover story for an assault.
John Keyes 43:32
Yeah, I’m like, well, it’s a better cover story. Then he had another in the ring. Trust me. There was no cover story that can save him from that one. Okay, so that that dog that Rocco had was it a golden retriever was was it was a name champ.
Ryan Smith 43:49
I would assume so the way you’re looking at your at Google right now, I would assume that that’s what it was.
John Keyes 43:55
I’m not looking at Google. I’m just saying you know what, not Nice to give it up. Oh yeah, just just be a model to Okay, I’m kicking the frog kick the zombie, throw a little holy water on it, call it a day, man, but go back to Calvin Klein and Demi Lovato and be a model dude.
Ryan Smith 44:13
So, today so anyway, um, so that so that happened Kevin Lee expected to be out for six months due to ACL surgery so you know, he’s he’s having a little bit of a little bit of a rough spot in his career but he’s gonna try to get straight with the, with the knee surgeries and he’s gonna be out for six months usually takes a year to recover. So that’s a credit to that biology major that he
John Keyes 44:37
Yeah, man. Yeah. He needs to just go back and
Kelechi Onyebuchi 44:42
we’ll say I’m always surprised at how fast the UFC fighters come back from these major surgeries. Is that
George Stallworth 44:49
is that a shot? What are you saying here?
John Keyes 44:51
I covered a shot. I heard a Chamberlain.
Unknown Speaker 44:53
I think I heard one too.
George Stallworth 44:56
Play something Say here, Casey.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 45:01
Yeah, yeah, well, Casey, I’m just dead serious. Like, I remember how long it took me to recover I tore ACL, PCL and LCL like I I did everything and My recovery was a year and a half I know other people who came back to football in a year. But it’s the level of strain that that you have to put yourself through in a in a fight at UFC fight. I think it’s more about the mental of just like I remember the very first time I took a hand off in college, after my my ACL surgery, all I could think about was I don’t want to tear this again, I don’t want to tear this again, like the state of mental toughness that these fighters have to get in there and ready to full on bang again, like this for real is like a credit to them. Like I don’t know how you can say six months after a surgery, you’re going to be ready to fight again. It takes a lot of mental toughness that Yeah, I don’t know
Ryan Smith 45:56
how they do it to get back in the ring and to to you know to not focus on the injured leg like for you, you’d be worried about that left leg right?
Kelechi Onyebuchi 46:05
Oh 100% Mm hmm. Just watch it.
You don’t want to kickbox me so you don’t want to kickbox me so
Ryan Smith 46:11
watch that left leg anyway is whatever. So, so this brings up a great this is the next segment is really about fight regrets. And you know, call me a regrets losing to Steve a meal chick. He says I’m better than him. And I think that that’s true. Basically, he, he was talking to DC and the whole DC and Hawaii podcast. He goes, I respect him. I think he’s a great guy. I think he’s a great role model, but I’m better than him. I just want to go prove it. I should have never lost to him. That’s going to be one of my greatest regrets. This is what he says next. I lost to john Jones, but he was better. Steve, chick is not better than me. But that’s going to be something I’ll regret for the rest of my life is letting him get a victory over me. It should never have happened.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 46:57
That’s a real warrior right there. Real champ. To be able to be honest about it it’s you can see your competition level where you’re fighting up with a john Jones but I think everyone saw the same fight when it came to me Oh chick like it was Daniel’s to win.
Ryan Smith 47:10
Yeah, I totally agree with it that a real champ acknowledges when he got beat. Here show that belt again. Fake champ
Kelechi Onyebuchi 47:22
let me go grab the trophy too.
Ryan Smith 47:23
Yeah. Go ahead. acknowledge that you got beat while you hold that belt.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 47:28
Hey, what was it like when you felt that the wind from my hook? Just barely miss you. What was what were your thoughts in that moment? Wait, you’re breaking up? I’m sorry. Oh, no, we’ve got a quality of service optimized. Networking.
All right. Real talk. Real
Unknown Speaker 47:47
talk. Real Talk.
John Keyes 47:49
I’m popular. unpopular opinion. Okay, first of all, DC just not this CPA like couple three times in there. Okay. I’m a better fighter than Steve pay. You know what? Okay. Apparently there’s video record that says that he’s not okay cuz he got knocked out. Okay. I don’t care what you say. I don’t care how good you say you are. If you still got knocked out by the dude, you’re apparently not that good. All right. It’s like,
Kelechi Onyebuchi 48:21
no, it’s not the same because DC had the option of winning he just chose to try to fight a dumb strategy.
John Keyes 48:28
And guess what? You lost that that will forevermore?
Ryan Smith 48:32
No. Okay. I disagree with you. Because what you’re saying is is that because the fact that steep Emile Chun got the win, he is better than than DC. The fact is, is that DC was winning that entire fight. He was until he wasn’t until he wasn’t it doesn’t change the fact that DC is better than steep. Emile check George.
George Stallworth 48:53
If I recall correctly, the first fight. Steve Bay was winning the entire fight and then DC shut it down.
Ryan Smith 48:58
The fight went left Then one round. How do you How are you winning the entire fight? To make it one round? Who was winning the fight? Steve a got knocked out that way.
John Keyes 49:15
He was winning. Just you
Ryan Smith 49:18
know, he paid me Oh chick, yeah, you’re not winning the whole fight when you’re in the first round, when you go 20 minutes with somebody and you’ve won the first four rounds.
John Keyes 49:28
If you if the fight lasts for one round, and you’re winning four and a half minutes of it, you’re winning until you
Ryan Smith 49:35
know the five and a half minutes the fight went like like two minutes. You know what, when it’s
John Keyes 49:41
31st minute and 30 you’re winning the fight until boom, all of a sudden you’re not winning the fight. That’s the same thing that happened here.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 49:49
They’re one in one who’s better than because this logic is just doesn’t work for me.
John Keyes 49:55
The person who
Kelechi Onyebuchi 49:57
adapted most recently one
John Keyes 49:58
okay. The person who adapted to the diversity and found the way to overcome that’s the winner.
George Stallworth 50:06
Typically, a trend that happens though, in trilogies the person who won the second fight tends to win the third fight we got
Kelechi Onyebuchi 50:16
from Coach yeah i mean
John Keyes 50:23
that’s true. But on top of that, Danny had to bring up john John’s we know Okay, BC thankful Come on. Come on as respectful as like talking about an ex girlfriend, dude. Okay. No, it
Kelechi Onyebuchi 50:38
must not have heard me talking about my ex.
John Keyes 50:42
We promised not to talk about the break up. Okay. All right. So we you know, it’s just the fact though he cannot get he’s not gonna get over john Jones. Okay, over
Kelechi Onyebuchi 50:53
john Jones. That was the most I’m over this person statement you can make. Yeah, I agree with that guy.
John Keyes 50:59
You know, the best thing Mr. Miyagi said it best, the best defense is not to be there. If he’s truly over john Jones, he should have never brought him up in the entire conversation.
Ryan Smith 51:09
No, because people people are going to ask him if he’s talking about someone who beat him, like Steve a meal chick, they’re going to bring up john Jones, he had to respond and say, listen, the difference between Steve and MailChimp and john Jones is that I recognize that john Jones is better than me. Steve, a meal chick is not better than me. And so that’s what DC is saying. He’s like, I lost to him and I accept it. I lost to him, but he’s not better than me. I know. And I know that I’m better than him. I beat him in the first fight in the first round. And the second one, I was winning for four rounds until I wasn’t.
John Keyes 51:46
So that’s just like saying that the first matchup between chill son and Anderson Silva. That chill son was clearly the better fighter because for four and a half rounds Well, I’m sorry, for 20 what 24 years that he was beating the crap out of you grinded him down to a miniscule powder. And then all sudden Anderson silver came out with a triangle choke and beat him, okay?
Ryan Smith 52:17
Your analogy doesn’t work and the reason why you’re not he doesn’t work is because in the second fight between Anderson Silva, there was a second fight. A second fight between Anderson Silva and chilsen chael did not have nearly the success that he had in the first round. I mean, if you if you if Charles son would have taken down, Anderson Silva and beaten Anderson Silva up again for four rounds, and then last again, that I could potentially say that chilsen is better than than Anderson Silva. Anderson is just a crafty Joker who finds a way to win. But the fact is, is that beat up he beat up Anderson Silva for four and a half rounds in the first fight. In the second fight Anderson Silva made him look silly. I mean, that spinning backfist where he fell down and it caught a knee to the chest shows that chael sonnen was not as good as Anderson Silva. frostbite was a fluke. But what we have is two fights between john between Daniel Cormier and CP Mele chick, whereas a male chick got knocked out in the first round and in the first fight, and then he got out class for four rounds in the second fight before exploiting Daniel Cormier, his liver, and then that won the fight,
John Keyes 53:36
adapted to the adversity pathway to win. We’ll agree to
Unknown Speaker 53:46
disagree. We’ll agree to disagree. If this fight is
George Stallworth 53:51
that much different in what you’re saying though, right. So
Ryan Smith 53:56
Kelechi Onyebuchi 53:57
before we jump into that, hold on, let me just let me cut in here. real quick. I think that this does prove that Daniel is over john Jones and it’s whatever like I don’t think that there’s still bad blood in that he’s willing to give props that way didn’t bring up performance enhancing drugs, all that stuff. Like this is the probably the most respectful. Yeah, like, this is probably the most respectful that you can talk about somebody when you’re just trying to move past it and addressing like, hey, do you think this person will knock you out? Like, hey, you give your answer and you move on? So that’s right. Oh, for sure.
George Stallworth 54:33
He just kept his talent and separate that from the human being and stuff like that. He cried in the car.
Ryan Smith 54:42
Very much so I’m gonna say it like this. I expect I’ma tell you right now. If this fight between Daniel Cormier and CP Emil Chuck happens and either one of you, Mr. Stallworth, sir, or john Key’s ah. pixton you Call me and win that fight. I’m gonna I’m gonna I’m gonna rag on y’all I’m gonna be
George Stallworth 55:07
the second fight out of a trilogy typically wins the third fight
Ryan Smith 55:10
okay I don’t care
Unknown Speaker 55:13
Ryan Smith 55:14
you Pixie pay me Oh chick then like go ahead and call it out
George Stallworth 55:18
what history says I’m not saying that he’s gonna win this. I like Daniel calling me for that fight because of the different things he brings to the table. But I want you to go back and research your stats this week. Look at your trilogy fights. See who won the second fight who won a third
Ryan Smith 55:33
I will I will definitely do that research but all I’m saying is both you George and you john have both disputed the fact that Daniel Cormier is better than Steve pay me Oh, chick.
George Stallworth 55:45
I don’t know if I I get what
John Keyes 55:52
you’re trying to do. You’re gonna have a gotcha moment. Okay. No, I already got
George Stallworth 55:57
your bow 123 What’s up? Hey guys, let me let me rewind you to last week and talk about eBay and DC. Oh, let’s talk about George and john, who picked the wrong fights. Oh, where are you? What’s your say Steven Smith.
Ryan Smith 56:12
Okay, listen. That’s right. And Steven Smith was proven right. Just like I’m gonna be proven right? Whenever DC went out,
George Stallworth 56:20
I got a message from someone who asked us to talk about Dominick Cruz getting a title shot. I know.
Ryan Smith 56:27
We talked about it last week, but we could talk about it again. I’m good. Actually, let’s go ahead and get through these last couple of couple of things. And then we get to the fight card cuz we got to go and make our picks right. So if they’ll stick with this, if they’ll stick with this, we will talk about it because you already know I’m hot about that. I’m like, this is wrong. It should not happen. He’s a great fighter though, so I’m gonna watch it. I’m chris chris Cyborg. reflects on her loss to Amanda Nunez. She says it kept flashing in her head. I wish that they could have run that one back. I would have wanted to see that one again. Dana White didn’t ask me anything on Reddit. And there was a couple of cool things that he that he talked about that came out of that one, he revealed his favorite UFC knockout of all time. Which one do you think it was without reading it?
John Keyes 57:18
It was probably the Ben asker knockout because there’s no love lost there for for how many years? There was no love loss. I don’t
George Stallworth 57:30
know. I like being but he says it in that way. Where you know, that’s not the truth.
John Keyes 57:34
Yeah, we cool but we ain’t that cool. So what
Ryan Smith 57:37
what Dana White said was his favorite UFC knockout was been aspirin. But,
Unknown Speaker 57:45
Ryan Smith 57:46
he said it’s not because he doesn’t like been asked and he says because it’s a flying knee that ended a fight in five seconds. Like, as a promoter like that’s a you know, you’d ever see that.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 57:56
I still don’t love those ridiculously fast knockouts. Were Neither fighter really got to prove they’re there. Yeah,
George Stallworth 58:04
I know. I sometimes think that Dana bra been over just to see him get cleaned up by somebody. Oh, I think green POM after that knockout have been asking like that.
John Keyes 58:18
But yeah, he proved that because there was a back in the day when leotta Machida was the was the killer. He you know, Dana White was set up, I think, didn’t he send Tito against a Leo Machida and he cleaned them out? And like around
Ryan Smith 58:33
might have not? I think that might have happened.
John Keyes 58:36
I want to see it did you Yeah, you can do that.
Ryan Smith 58:40
But the But yeah, I mean, I think that the fight was been asking and Robbie Lawler was it was one of those gotcha kind of fights that that matchup for being aspirin. So I think that that’s the case and Ben Ben aspirin made that made that comment as well. Dana White also was asked who’s the hardest and the easiest to negotiate with. He said Mark Hunt and Forrest Griffin. Can you tell me who is the hardest in the in the easiest?
Unknown Speaker 59:05
I think it’s
Kelechi Onyebuchi 59:07
because Mark Hunt hates Dana and the UFC Oregon as a whole so I feel like he just is like whenever I’ll just sign the contract and move on don’t want to deal with
Ryan Smith 59:16
no no no no.
George Stallworth 59:20
Well you know Mark currently has a class action lawsuit filed against I think the UFC and and some other players in the game
Kelechi Onyebuchi 59:28
now. Well, at least it’s first one got dismissed. A lot of it got dismissed. Yeah.
Ryan Smith 59:32
Um, the last one they asked him if Anthony rumble Johnson returns to the UFC. Who should he who’s gonna fight Dana White said he’ll give him some one in the top 10 depending on where the where the structures lie. No, he Well,
George Stallworth 59:46
can we get a tune up fight for Anthony I mean,
Ryan Smith 59:50
dude, that guy hits hard and he’s been powerlifting
George Stallworth 59:54
don’t don’t toss him to like a Francis in Ghana or anything in the light heavyweight division would it be
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:00:00
Can you not find light heavyweight? Not anymore now he’s put so much muscle oh no
George Stallworth 1:00:05
where was that he’s gonna go back to light heavyweight now. I don’t I don’t think that’s a good look for him. He originally said he was going to heavyweight but now the word is he might go back to light heavyweight
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:00:15
versus an overeem that would be an interesting fight yeah I like that yeah look we’re Brock
Ryan Smith 1:00:21
Lesnar no Brock Lesnar is done. And speaking of someone who’s done Cain Velasquez was cut from WWE
Unknown Speaker 1:00:30
you know, yeah, he was he was cut to cut down on budget basically for WWE and you know, I was looking and I cannot find his finisher I don’t think he had a wrestling finisher I don’t think
Ryan Smith 1:00:41
he actually got into the ring Did he just
John Keyes 1:00:43
showed it. He showed up. He showed up at he also shoot it on on on Brock Lesnar. And was was was punching on him.
Ryan Smith 1:00:52
But it wasn’t an actual ring. Like there wasn’t actually a fight in a ring like he. He did a promo and there was a brawl in the room. But But he didn’t actually fight in a match.
John Keyes 1:01:02
While he was on the match he did most of his wrestling and cmll and triple A Yeah.
George Stallworth 1:01:08
All right word I’ve heard is that he kept getting injured too much for the WWE, which we know he is injury prone. Yeah.
Ryan Smith 1:01:17
So anyway, let’s get into the final segment of the night. That is the fight card. We’re going to make our picks for UFC 249.
All right, it has been a long time but we are doing it. This is the fight card. This is our preview of UFC 249 and we’re going to make the picks we’re going to go through all of them because all of them have where they fighter so we’re going to go ahead, these are flash fight picks, Sam Alvey versus Ryan span. Joe, john, who you got
John Keyes 1:01:57
I don’t know anything about either fighter. I’m Fortunately that’s my fault that’s my fault I’ll I’ll flip a coin and say Ryan’s fan all right George
George Stallworth 1:02:08
Wow, I don’t know I’m choosing against john. I’m going with lb.
Ryan Smith 1:02:13
All right, Casey.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:02:15
Unfortunately though I like Alvey I’m going span on this one. All right,
Ryan Smith 1:02:19
I’m gonna stick with smiling Sam Alvey. I like actually got to see him in Ottawa that that time whenever I was in the same hotel as the fighters at UFC at the UFC event,
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:02:31
Ryan will not fail to bring that up every It
Ryan Smith 1:02:33
is one of my favorite stories it is it is a highlight of my life. It’s going to be one of those things on my tombstone along with the pepperoni the Bryce Mitchell versus
Unknown Speaker 1:02:47
you can’t just smooth over that. Okay, what? What?
Ryan Smith 1:02:52
It’s, it’s, it’s it’s a pizza joke. There’s a brand of pizza called tombstone. All right. That’s not it’s not funny if you have to explain it. Exactly. All right, Bryce Mitchell versus Charles Rossa?
Unknown Speaker 1:03:14
The baby Ryan Mitchell versus Charles Rossa? cholesky. Who you got
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:03:19
Charles Rossa. Oh, Jay
Ryan Smith 1:03:21
All right, George.
George Stallworth 1:03:23
Relevant Rosa two.
Ryan Smith 1:03:24
All right, john.
John Keyes 1:03:27
I’m beyond man. I’m taking charge Bryce. Dallas Hey Charles Bryce third nasty Mitchell just because on that name he may get killed in the first 10 seconds Guess what?
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:03:38
This is why y’all don’t use him for Vegas odds.
John Keyes 1:03:43
told you about my about me and shooting dice. I am legendary. For sneaking is legendary. Okay, look, I talk about my DND days now. All right I got I got
Ryan Smith 1:04:04
what I’m doing with Charles Rossa here we go next one Vincent De Luca versus Nico price here we go. George Do you money Stallworth we got
George Stallworth 1:04:14
John Keyes 1:04:15
All right, john. Man if the coach calls I’ma go with him Nico price man against better I guess better judgment. I’m going to Nico price okay see
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:04:27
the price is not right.
Ryan Smith 1:04:31
Nostradamus makes a pick. I’m going with the Zinta Luca. I like that guy. I think he’s gonna he’s gonna he’s gonna do well. All right, here we go you’re right Hall versus Jukka Ray Sousa, john who you got.
John Keyes 1:04:46
If he’s smart shocker ray will go for the takedown within the first five seconds and gang and get this guy out of there. Do not play with this man. Your raw Hall is explosive especially when he is mentally They’re okay. That’s my that’s my pick. George.
George Stallworth 1:05:06
I told you guys last week, your eyes changing over it for this. I’m gonna go with the hometown team. I’m calling you out for the victory by knockout.
Ryan Smith 1:05:14
All right, Casey.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:05:18
I’m also with you, they’re a coach. I will say that just for the record, I find this fight to be the single most intriguing fight on this entire card. Because of the X factor that is Uriah Hall’s mental state. Mm hmm.
Ryan Smith 1:05:32
It’s true that if he’s dialed in, he’s a dangerous guy. But I like the fact that Jackie re Sousa can can fight standing up or he can take it to bite to the ground. The you know, I got I got the alligator crocodile. Anyway. Carla Esparza the Cookie Monster versus Michelle. karate hottie. Waterson George bro.
George Stallworth 1:05:59
karate hottie all day, baby. All right. Column Wanna fight?
Ryan Smith 1:06:03
It’s been a while. It’s been a while.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:06:06
It’s been a while after watching her get beaten Dallas I can’t ever, ever.
Ryan Smith 1:06:15
John Keyes 1:06:17
and I love Carla Esparza but Michelle Waterson Okay, she’s trying to be a mom champ. So yeah, I guess
Ryan Smith 1:06:26
I swore that I would after I saw Michelle Waterson fight the fight before you’ll want to use JJ I was like, I like Michelle Waterson I like how she fights so I’m gonna go with Michelle Waterson but she got to keep the fight off the off her back man. Like Carlos bars is still a great wrestler. She’s just terrible on her feet. Okay, for Bri SEO for Doom versus Alexi. olynyk Casey olynyk all day. That’s easy. All right, George.
George Stallworth 1:06:52
Oh, man. This is a I think olynyk but for Bri SEO can surprise people. We’ve seen it happened before him
Ryan Smith 1:07:01
a long time he hadn’t been he hadn’t fought in two years
George Stallworth 1:07:05
Jiu Jitsu Jiu Jitsu guys old just saying I’m old too I can knock somebody out
John Keyes 1:07:14
yes sir Hey man don’t mess with joy don’t
Ryan Smith 1:07:21
yeah don’t ask that question you want some of this oh man he’s like Actually yes step outside
John Keyes 1:07:28
tell you IV kill him up in the streets I’m telling you like I’ve always followed always respected for breeze you know, especially if you throw a boomerang acts accurately. But Alexei olynyk he’s up and comer. he’s a he’s young. He’s hungry. He is. He’s dangerous. I’m giving a lecture
George Stallworth 1:07:49
on waited to
John Keyes 1:07:51
was that Casey over there at him look a little thought on that pillow, sir.
Ryan Smith 1:08:02
I’m gonna go with for free Silverdome. It’s been a long time he hadn’t fought in a while, but you know, heavyweight and heavyweight? I think he gets that fight to the ground. This is the featured fight on the prelims Donald cowboys Sironi versus Anthony Pettis, you might remember Anthony Pettis defeated Donald cowboys Sironi with Oliver kick and stopped him. Who you got George?
George Stallworth 1:08:32
repeat that for me. Is this the feature fight on the prelim? Yes. I’m going with pedis if we could move this to something other than the preacher fight seralini would get this but
John Keyes 1:08:43
you thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks Ronnie there anymore.
George Stallworth 1:08:47
It’s I don’t think there is no he’s not there. He has a hard time showing up for big fights. And if this is a feature prelim, I would consider it a big fight. More eyes are probably going to be on this prelim fight than on the actual paper view, too. To some degree,
John Keyes 1:09:01
now, is this gonna be a five rounder or is it gonna be a three round round? Oh, cuz I’m sorry fellas Got it. Got it. Yes I know it’s that hold on all right you just have to go back
George Stallworth 1:09:16
all right Casey, I just want you recognize it wasn’t me this time
John Keyes 1:09:21
I it’s been a long time man hours
Ryan Smith 1:09:23
my process Thank you.
George Stallworth 1:09:26
I was literally thinking earlier before the show started that if I messed up and slip one in, but I should just go ahead and get several more just to get them all out the way whatever point you found it in the show, you just say okay, we need to delete this five minutes of footage here.
Unknown Speaker 1:09:43
I can’t do that
George Stallworth 1:09:46
job any harder.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:09:49
I’m going Sironi here and I hate it because we all know I despise that that man.
Unknown Speaker 1:09:55
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:09:56
I just need to like if I’m gonna pick him I need to also say something, despair. Along the way, okay, just picks around
Ryan Smith 1:10:02
I got Anthony Pettis you know i i am not confident that that Donald’s throat he really wants to keep fighting I think he says he does but I don’t think he’s emotionally I don’t think his heart is in it anymore I think that the Conor McGregor his fight was was a sign and I think that Anthony Pettis is going to get another win and and we should start talking about whether or not cowboys Roni should continue fighting he’s
George Stallworth 1:10:29
or the man Hmm
Ryan Smith 1:10:30
I’m just this is my opinion All right, let’s get into the main card. Greg hardy versus your gun de Castro. JOHN Key’s we got
John Keyes 1:10:38
Greg hardy period point blank. That’s it.
Ryan Smith 1:10:43
All right, George.
George Stallworth 1:10:47
I’m going with Castro and this one man. You know, barring hardy does something illegal like hitting in Halo or at one time on a legal Nia something he Yeah, yeah, he just keeps finding away. Lose Weight so I’m going with with Castro. Okay,
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:11:04
I’m opposite here. I feel like hardy doesn’t know how to lose outside of getting in his own way but
dues meant for this sport?
Ryan Smith 1:11:15
Yes. Yeah, I’m going with Greg hardy myself. I think that this fight isn’t gonna last more than two minutes if they if they fight the way he’s been fighting Jeremy Stevens versus Calvin cater Collette you
John Keyes 1:11:28
Ryan Smith 1:11:30
little heathen. George.
George Stallworth 1:11:33
I’m going with Calvin man. Have you seen him lately?
Unknown Speaker 1:11:37
The right answer, john.
John Keyes 1:11:40
All No, I think I’m about to go with Casey on this. Like little even all the way man. All right.
Ryan Smith 1:11:46
I got I got Calvin cater that guy. I really thoroughly enjoy watching that guy fight. Um, here we go. We got Francis in Ghana versus Lorenzo Rosen’s truck. So Casey, who you got
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:12:04
I got the fans. We all went on this fight.
Ryan Smith 1:12:08
Make a pic naxxramas
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:12:11
I just went doesn’t count against my record, but
I’m going resin struck. What? I know this is why I said it doesn’t
Ryan Smith 1:12:21
seem like he’s like I can block.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:12:23
Everyone knows I can block doesn’t vote together. Wait.
John Keyes 1:12:29
Ryan Smith 1:12:31
All right, john George
George Stallworth 1:12:35
I’m going with in Godot. Yeah.
Ryan Smith 1:12:39
John Keyes 1:12:40
I’m going to
Ryan Smith 1:12:43
all right I’m going with in Godot three because that’s going to have that like was his truck was getting whooped by by free kind of fear out here and you don’t you think Alice overeem is scarier than in Ghana?
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:12:58
He had to Rosen’s. was on his way up had too much to lose. This is the fight where you put it all on the line. Mm, Eagle.
Ryan Smith 1:13:06
It’ll be another highlight knockout. This is gonna go less than two because it will you
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:13:09
you saw what Rosen stroke is able to do when he turns it up like that from the jump.
George Stallworth 1:13:15
He’s a decorated kickboxers Well, it’s not like the man is not a fighter, so, but he ain’t got that power like
Ryan Smith 1:13:21
that he Okay, and he’s gonna be playing too conservatively. We were watching that fight and he was like, dude, actually start throwing punches. If he allows, for instance in Ghana to dictate the pace and gone it was going to catch him. He’s going to catch him. All right co main event, Henry sudo vs dominant cruise.
Unknown Speaker 1:13:43
George Stallworth 1:13:45
I’m going with DC baby. But work all night. Hopefully we’re gonna see a clinic.
Ryan Smith 1:13:51
All right, john.
John Keyes 1:13:53
The man doesn’t believe in ring rough and he has proven it. And as much as I don’t like to do it. Cannot Catskill Dominick Cruz is going to win.
Ryan Smith 1:14:03
All right, Casey.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:14:05
I’m cruising with Dominic.
Ryan Smith 1:14:08
All right. Well, all you guys are on Dominick Cruz. I’m gonna be like, on Dominick Cruz as well. You guys could be unopposed out in the rain on a post in the ring and I would go with the air. I picked the Matt versus Henry sudah
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:14:32
had you not just pick Dominic? I would believe that. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 1:14:37
Oh, here we go with what?
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:14:41
You just, you just picked Dominic, didn’t you? I did. So you can’t then say that you would choose the air over. Sudoku.
John Keyes 1:14:49
He said it feels nobody else in the ring if he went on a pole.
Ryan Smith 1:14:53
Yeah, like I said, If Henry sudo was unopposed, I would go with the air against Henry sudo. I’d pick the mat. Oh, Henry sudo
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:15:03
for a seat.
Ryan Smith 1:15:08
So to the person who messaged George, if if that person actually waited this, I didn’t realize it’s gonna take this long to get to this point. But I am actually not happy with Dominick Cruz being given this, this nice fight. He’s been out for four years he’s been injured and even though he is a talented fighter, even though he is a draw, he is stepping over people who have an actual right to this fight. And it’s unfortunate that when we talk about the fact that this is about the honor of the sport, and this is about being you know, respectful and and, and and working your way to the top, that a person like Dominick Cruz, who has been sitting on the sidelines doing color commentary can go and not fight for four years and then step into the ring and fight for a title. He himself I understand it’s his money and all that kind of stuff. So before we get the well this is money and no friends this ain’t show for instance show business and all that kind of stuff. He should have the honor and the respect of the other fighters in the ring and say listen, Peter Yon Corey, San Hagen, Al Jemaine Sterling. You guys deserve this fight before I deserve this fight.
John Keyes 1:16:22
But Dominick Cruz has an ego, and he’s not gonna let that happen.
Ryan Smith 1:16:26
So it’s wrong. It’s wrong. It is absolutely wrong.
John Keyes 1:16:31
It’s wrong. It’s completely wrong. When he lost to Cody. He was beside himself. I’ve never seen an angry fighter. All right. I’m Ken Shamrock with that angry.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:16:42
I don’t blame the fighters when the UFC puts them in this position. UFC has a ranking system that if they valued they follow, they do it. So as a fighter, you give them a shot. You take it every time.
Unknown Speaker 1:16:54
There you go. I
Ryan Smith 1:16:57
yes, but at the same time, you still Say, no, it’s wrong. I have morals. I have values.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:17:05
I got more mouths to feed.
Unknown Speaker 1:17:08
I got mortgages, I got car, you
Ryan Smith 1:17:11
get to a certain point where that argument is hollow. I mean, this is like Latrell Sprewell turning down a $10 million contract going, I gotta feed my kids. Like,
John Keyes 1:17:22
I’m not saying it’s right. I’m just saying that’s just how some people are wired where I don’t know. Yeah, exactly. I don’t I don’t follow that mindset of, you know, I got bills to pay. I’m like, you know, you got to do the right thing. Do the right thing because in the long run, it will, it will work out in spades.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:17:41
Who amongst us haven’t applied for a job that we know we’re not qualified for? I mean, it’s no different when your jobs fighting like you shoot your shot.
John Keyes 1:17:54
Ryan Smith 1:17:56
this is a dude that would have gotten a title shot. Anyway. The He started fighting again, he would have gotten a title shot. He’s a great fighter. He deserves the ability to fight for a title, but you need to actually establish yourself again after four years of being out. That’s all I’m saying is that it’s not like he’s some fighter. He’s not like he’s someone like Damien Maya, right? Who thought his whole career got a title shot and then was really trying to get another title shot and then when he finally got it, he didn’t put you know, he didn’t find a great fight and it’s like so um, you know, it’s it’s those kinds of things that it’s like Dominick Cruz is gonna get a title shot he really could have been a been a been been been a good person and let the right outlet right fighter fight
George Stallworth 1:18:49
repeat what you really want to say a company man right? Well,
Ryan Smith 1:18:51
I was gonna say company man but the company. The company man did what the man does and he went and fought well not fighters and fought.
George Stallworth 1:19:00
in being a company man, which he’s been for multiple years, even while he was out injured, he’s always as a commentator hyping up that whole division. He’s done. He’s done more to keep the 135 division in our ears than anyone else I know. Even cringe worthy. So kudos to, he’s won that belt twice. He’s putting he and held that belt for whatever time until he was injured. That alone, I think guarantees him a title shot. I’m not saying he earned it or that, that he deserves it after being for four years all what I am saying to you is, and when you look at that division, who’s the buyer that’s gonna bring him to the table?
Ryan Smith 1:19:40
I mean, this is this this, this is the argument right as to why you let you let dominant crews fight for the title. Yes, he brings attention to this this card. He is a draw. He absolutely is. But the fact is, is that at this point, is it the right thing to do? Is it the ethical thing to do? That’s all I’m saying. I don’t, based on my code of ethics, I would have I would have heartburn, knowing that these fighters have been working their whole career for the opportunity to fight for this title, and then when it came open, they weren’t even. They weren’t even asked. They just came straight to me and said, Hey, you want to fight for the title? And I? I just don’t think that’s ethical. I just don’t think it’s more I don’t it doesn’t fall within my personal moral compass.
George Stallworth 1:20:36
Though we can’t warn someone who’s been a company man.
Ryan Smith 1:20:40
We shouldn’t the company we shouldn’t we just got finished talking. No, you can’t. But we get mad at fighters who
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:20:49
turned down fights, but we’re saying more fighters should turn down fight. No,
Ryan Smith 1:20:52
that’s not what we’re saying at all. That is a twisting of what I’m saying. Exactly. What I’m saying is is that Dominick Cruz had an opportunity to do the right thing knowing that there are fighters who had rightfully deserved a title shot, and he instead decided to take that title shot, even though he has done nothing in four years that have warranted his does his right to be fighting for the title right now.
George Stallworth 1:21:18
Tell me how this plays out for dominant if he turned down a title shot, what does the UFC say to something like that afterwards? If I’m a matchmaker, and I call you up, say, hey, DC, I gotta fight for you. Here is the Kudo. Nah, man, there’s some other guys out there deserve a little bit more. Call me back when you get another matchup for me. Sure, we’ll click hope you get hurt, right?
Ryan Smith 1:21:43
Okay, but at the same time, it’s like, if he fights one fight one, he fights one person. You fled Dominick Cruz fight one person, he finishes that person, you know good and well. Everyone’s gonna be asking Dana why Wednesday, Dominick Cruz gonna get a title shot.
George Stallworth 1:21:59
It was We all know how you know the DC is gonna get hurt either during this fight directly after we have to go out for another surgery or whatever the case may be. This is the time to make that fight you’re not going to get this fight later.
Ryan Smith 1:22:13
I just I just think it’s sad for the other fighters that that’s that’s it for me.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:22:19
black and white.
Ryan Smith 1:22:21
Now see cholesky this we’re saying right and wrong here.
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:22:28
Is it really wrong for this guy to take the shot he’s giving? No no,
Ryan Smith 1:22:33
what I’m saying is based upon my code of ethics. I think it’s wrong. I’m not making an absolute I’m not making an absolute statement. I am still consistent after all these years. I’m saying within my own code of ethics and you can go back I know that what happens is at this point in the show when you start eating and drinking on camera, you know you miss what I say like When I said that Henry Cejudo I would if he was unopposed shots fired he I would I would go with the air and and or the or the or the mat that you missed the content.
Unknown Speaker 1:23:11
He just took a drink
Ryan Smith 1:23:15
he’s not he’s not but George ain’t calling me out. George ain’t trying to push my ga isn’t low key calling me out. Make an absolute statements and stuff like you’re doing like you dog whistle and right now, john and George have no idea what you’re talking about. But I know. That’s why you get
John Keyes 1:23:35
I will say it like this. And just to sum it up in one statement. I’m not saying it’s right. But I understand. Yeah, I’m not. Right. And I’m sure I agree with you, Ryan. I agree with you wholeheartedly. On a moral standpoint, this is wrong, but at the same time business, I understand I understand why it was done.
George Stallworth 1:23:58
Yeah. And I can’t go Big pipe was to deprecate on DC as a result of this though I noticed I didn’t I didn’t use that word or What had you cleaning this up like yes,
Ryan Smith 1:24:11
but thanks I appreciate that. Um No but I actually have a problem calling him DC even though his initials are the DC
John Keyes 1:24:20
just call it crews like I do
Ryan Smith 1:24:22
but anyway I digress main event of the evening Tony Ferguson versus Justin he for the interim lightweight championship we all said that we don’t necessarily give a lot of credit to this belt because the lightweight championship has been an interim and it’s it gets taken away faster than my belt after ticket Fight Night. But anyway, get off
Unknown Speaker 1:24:46
the bridge and get over
Ryan Smith 1:24:49
who you got. Let’s go with it. Tony Ferguson versus Justin he will start with you Collette you
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:24:54
you got going Justin he cuz the year is 2020 and crazy stuff is happening all around us. You got a point?
John Keyes 1:25:02
Yeah. All right.
Ryan Smith 1:25:04
Uh, George, who you got?
George Stallworth 1:25:08
I’m going with Tony man, Tony Ferguson.
Ryan Smith 1:25:12
John Keyes 1:25:14
I’m gonna go with Tony Ferguson. In this matchup his elbows are too sharp. His his, his awkward style is just too good. I’m sorry, Justin, he is gonna have some problems. And
Ryan Smith 1:25:30
I got in you know me Tony Ferguson is my dude, I rather die for Tony Ferguson, no matter how crazy he gets. I got Tony Ferguson. So you know, I got Tony Ferguson winning in bloody fashion. He’s gonna be cutting up Justin he and I don’t think this goes the distance I think he finishes Justin he. So there you have it. USC 249 this weekend. I’m excited. We got to figure out how we’re going to do it. Maybe we’ll do a live broadcast like we usually do at at the lion and crown Let’s go ahead let’s follow us on social media on Instagram. I’m at combat sports top john.
John Keyes 1:26:06
I’m a keys to victory in s keys with the E FF George
George Stallworth 1:26:11
Darkside MMA, that is Darkside underscore ma underscore
Ryan Smith 1:26:16
Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:26:18
I’m at Aegis Elba. All right.
Ryan Smith 1:26:21
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