Episode 136 – UFC 252: Miocic vs. Cormier 3 (Recap)

To avoid the doghouse, Ryan chose family over fights and missed UFC 252, but John, George and Kelechi had his back. ┬áListen to their recap of the fights from Saturday Night and get their takes on whether the eye poke that tore Cormier’s cornea made the difference in the fight or not. ┬áHear headlines about Jon Jones moving to Heavyweight and the implications of such a move on the title picture, talk about Michael Chandler moving to the UFC and more.


Ryan Smith 0:09
Welcome to combat sports talk a podcast dedicated to UFC and bellator discussion the MMA community and combat sports in general I’m your host Ryan Smith and joining me this week is the man with the keys to victory john keys what’s up john keys

John Keyes 0:24
and what’s going on everybody? We got a lot to talk about tonight.

Ryan Smith 0:28
Yes we do. And also joining me is collect Casey own yay Buchi

Unknown Speaker 0:41

Ryan Smith 0:44
know, it doesn’t really work for for the audio audience the audio piece that was Collette she doing his finest, badly dubbed kung fu movie impression. And the coach to the stars George g money stoner

George Stallworth 1:05
what’s up what’s up? What’s up? How y’all doing today?

Ryan Smith 1:08
Great. We got a lot to talk about this is going this is gonna be a great one. I

George Stallworth 1:15
was I was already cracking up on the pre show

Unknown Speaker 1:20
a comedy already

Ryan Smith 1:24
that’s just that’s the warm up stuff right? Well that’s our warm up. You can’t be talking about the warm up warm up is like Vegas what happens in warm up stays in warm up.

George Stallworth 1:33
Oh, no, man, sometimes you got to talk about practice. You know that? That’s what this

Unknown Speaker 1:40
practice well. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:48
All right. All right.

Ryan Smith 1:50
Well, so I’m gonna go ahead and follow my sword. I was not doing the the good work on this weekend. Actually, I was but I did not get to watch UFC 252 it was my daughter’s confirmation so we were at church had family over. And you know, you guys know that. I am. You know, I was under a little bit of a magnifying glass about watching UFC and doing UFC with, you know, with the wife. So

George Stallworth 2:24
I just wanted, I just want to put this out there. I mean, just get this straight. You just snitched on yourself to the entire combat sports nation.

Ryan Smith 2:32
Hey, listen. Listen, Linda, listen. Yes, I did. Yes, I did.

George Stallworth 2:46
But I’m going to discuss it with you in great detail.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 2:48
Yes. Right. Like every other week.

Ryan Smith 2:53
Like, Hey, I didn’t watch the fights, because I didn’t want to get in trouble. That’s the way the ball bounces here. No real

Unknown Speaker 3:10

John Keyes 3:11
Okay, so, nation understand. Ryan is about what six foot four, six foot five? And you’re about what five foot two? five foot three. Okay. Little ones. I think she’s maybe weighs about 121 15 rhiness more than 121 15.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 3:31
I thought we’re starting with the three or the four, which

Ryan Smith 3:35
I appreciate that you said that I was more than 115? Because yes, I do weigh more than 115 pounds. We don’t need to say how much more

Kelechi Onyebuchi 3:44
could you currently make wait for heavy weight?

Ryan Smith 3:47
You know, what?

Could I make weight? I absolutely could just not today I would need to camp just like anybody. Like you mean Derrick Lewis cuts weight, I would have to cut a little bit of weight.

George Stallworth 4:11
And I’m gonna have to speak up for my boys over here because like in these times, we’ve seen women how many pounds do you say Christina was 150?

Ryan Smith 4:21
Listen, we can’t be like around.

George Stallworth 4:25
Brothers. I’m asking what do we say? Like the 115? That’s like strawweight that’s like JJ. JOHN Key’s would you want to smoke with JJ?

John Keyes 4:33
No, because she kicks off. Okay. I don’t know how big his wife’s feet are. I mean, she might have she might be wearing a sauce 15 we don’t know this man. I’m just saying

George Stallworth 4:50
shows off the rails already.

Ryan Smith 4:54
Let’s get it back on the rails. And the way we get it back on the rails is by talking about the number of One thing that we want to talk about and that is the headliner, which is this

Alright, this is the headline. This is where we talk about the number one topic of the day and that is john Jones vacates the light heavyweight title.

John Keyes 5:24
Okay so for everybody that was doing our drinking game go ahead and drink up because this this segment is dedicated to him all right, yeah. Yeah. Wow. So let’s talk about this Um, I think I called this at some point I think

George Stallworth 5:48
we even go there for we even go there. Yeah. How does it seem like to you guys that john Jones just comes in to steal the spotlight from photography, have you given any DC retire on Saturday night basis? And Monday morning, the headline is john Jones vacates the bill. Don’t get me wrong. That’s a very big thing. But does it seem like there’s any calculation is this a poke in the eye? Oh, really?

John Keyes 6:22
We’re going with it Jimmy gate. All right. Okay, so

Ryan Smith 6:27
yeah, why don’t you gotta go with poking the eye with Daniel Cormier? We know that’s a sore subject right now.

Unknown Speaker 6:32
Yeah, just be real Was that too soon though?

John Keyes 6:40
Yeah, I like I like where your mind is that because guess what, wait, where is he? Is he above

Ryan Smith 6:46
me? Below you he’s below Yeah.

John Keyes 6:49
I like how you think sir because that’s exactly what happened. Not only did he dig on him on Monday morning he did on him on Saturday night kick my music this got the sorry okay. So not only the after the fighting the john john kind of steal the thunder there. Okay. He also in a very passive aggressive way. He sat there and said he could do it better than then then Daniel Cormier and it was just like, dude, if you are doing exactly what I knew you would do he is going to not only is he coming to heavyweight he’s gonna come to heavyweight to do what Daniel Cormier couldn’t do. And I get and that’s not only take the belt from steep pay, but destroy steep a where he stands and defend that bell. And then he’s gonna sit there and say, guess what, I’ve done both I’m out. So So

Ryan Smith 7:47
conjecture in there to two hours after he renounces his belt. He tweets out that good conversations with the UFC that he, you know, he’s going to start negotiating to go to the heavyweight time to start gaining some weight. So yeah, he is going to heavyweight? This is it. JOHN Jones is making the move. That’s headline worthy.

John Keyes 8:13
Yeah, he knew exactly when

George Stallworth 8:15
he sees retirement, though. I mean,

Unknown Speaker 8:18
I don’t think one Really?

Kelechi Onyebuchi 8:28
That’s it again.

Ryan Smith 8:31
No, john, George was like, you know, he announced his move to heavyweight kind of stealing, you know, the light from DCs retirement and I said, Who?

John Keyes 8:49
Yeah, this is all okay. So here’s, here’s how it’s gonna happen. At this point. All right. Now that john Jones has set his sights up there. Okay. Dana knows what he’s going to do. Dana is somehow, some way. He’s gonna try and convince DC to come back for john. Okay. The way you do that, is by giving john I have a title shot. JOHN Jones. We’ll get that title shot. Okay. JOHN Jones will win that title shot.

Ryan Smith 9:20
You must read the run sheet.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 9:23
Ah, you first right?

Ryan Smith 9:26
No, I’m just saying you must not have read the run sheet because they’ve already addressed what’s gonna happen with the heavyweight title contention picture.

John Keyes 9:36
like they’ve already it’s already been discussed. I’m sorry. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Like man. Okay, man, we

Ryan Smith 9:46
got this show is gonna be off the rails, but let’s just go with it. Okay, it’s already, it’s already off the rails. I look. I apologize to y’all who are trying to follow along. Normally we have it in a linear time. thought process so that the show follows but today we just talking about stuff. So let’s just go with

John Keyes 10:05
Mike all right DC and john Jones relationship.

Ryan Smith 10:08
Oh my gosh, okay, people are playing the drinking game at home. We don’t have people with alcohol poisoning number times you keep referencing john Jones and Daniel Cormier listen. So john Jones is moving up to heavyweight. He talked about the fact that he wanted that title shot with Steve paimio chick but Ranson ganu has already said you got to wait your turn. And Daniel and and Dana White has already said you got to wait your turn. So there is not going to be a john Jones title shot. Because Francis in Ghana is going to get the title shot first.

George Stallworth 10:47
You can’t even say that with a straight face, right?

Ryan Smith 10:54
Because Listen, the fight the fight that people want to see is Francis and Connor versus john Jones, where the title

John Keyes 11:02
was that’s the fight

Ryan Smith 11:03
that still is the fight that everyone wants to see.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 11:06
I think the setup for that is really good just given that with the fight that we saw. I will recap it a little bit but I didn’t see anything impressive that I wanted to see DC back in the octagon again, so DC has already admitted that john Jones is a better fighter that’s that’s an undisputable fact like if DC himself it said that john Jones is better than me then we should accept that I didn’t see a DC who could go through another training camp and show that he is top caliber like number one contender to even get that title shot second of all stupid thing in the picture. Steve a is defeated almost everyone and heavyweight at this point his legacy solidified like we’re almost ready for a new champion at this point, like a more interesting fight with unknown because steep A is a really good tactician who pick you apart we know that but what we don’t know is what john Jones brings to heavyweight and and how how good Francis is beyond just a one punch power. That’s a compelling story beyond anything else shape up in the heavyweight division. Like I’m not buying tickets to see like I paid for the pay per view on this car made versus the bay. I’m not paying for another Cormier a pay per view if he comes back like I’m just not. I’ll watch the recap afterwards. And I think a lot of fans are kind of there with Cormier. He’s a great commentator, but he’s he’s moved past his prime.

John Keyes 12:41
I don’t know if I can agree with that. I think I think because the way he fought Saturday he did not fight TV. He did not play to his strengths. Okay. If and this and I hate to be on armchair quarterbacking at that, you know, on a Monday night, but he should have wrestled, if I was Daniel Cormier with that much wrestling wrestling credentials, I have, believe me out of out across that ring and went for a double leg takedown takedown and proceeded to own steepy on the ground and made it his the worst night of his life.

Ryan Smith 13:18
He didn’t do that. break that down in the fight.

John Keyes 13:20
Yeah, let’s break it down. Okay,

Ryan Smith 13:23
so then look, let’s finish up the headliner then. So john Jones vacates the UFC title. He negotiated for move up to heavyweight. Of course, what I was going to talk about is the fact that it was really interesting because on August 14, that’s just three days ago, Dana White said that there would be a light heavyweight title fight and that if john Jones stayed at light heavyweight, he would have to fight Dominic rez again. And, and and so that effectively Dana White was asking john Jones if he wanted to some more this old man and he’s like, no. I move up, I move up to heavyweight. So Dominick Reyes, and

George Stallworth 14:02
that’s the way I was.

Ryan Smith 14:04
I’m just I’m just kidding. Hey, john Jones is not scared of Dominic Chris, but Dominic rez, um, is facing yon blazkowicz Well, they’re planning to make the fight Dominick Reyes versus young blazkowicz for UFC 253 on September 26. So that may be the fight for the vacant Light Heavyweight title. There you go. I feel like once I fight I just feel like it’s gonna be one sided. I mean, young bloco that she’s has shown himself to be a winner, but I still don’t. I’m not excited about him. I feel like Dominic rez walks in there and just takes them takes two takes the bell. Alright, let’s go into the official decision.

All right, this is the official decision. This is what we look at the fights from Saturday night UFC 252 meal chick vs Cormier, a three, Saturday, October August 15 2020. At the UFC Apex Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada. There were five fights on the card. JOHN Dotson versus mihrab divish Billy Moran divish really defeated john Dodson by unanimous decision. I think we we were all talking about the fact that 135 just isn’t the right way class for john Dotson seems like it like like it was so

Kelechi Onyebuchi 15:39
this was that fight really solidified it around look like a young could be out there. Or Habib out there just dominating with wrestling, and a gas tank that look like he wanted two or three more fights to go the rest of the night. That dude is a problem.

Ryan Smith 15:58
All right. Herbert burns. Lost Daniel paida. via TKO in the second round. But Neda, sorry. So, George, you were telling me that you recently learned about Herbert burns? Yeah.

George Stallworth 16:19
Hold on, man. Hold on. Your friend happened to be watching. I was in and out I guess cooking or doing whatever. And she proceeded to tell she proceeded to tell me that you know, a Herbert Burns was just on TV or whatever. And I’m like there is no harbor burns it me howard dean baby, and you confuse them with Gilbert burns because they maybe there was a fight where her referee, no Herman burns, George Burns. I just do not believe her whatsoever. The next day. I’m watching the recap of the fights with her sitting next to me, mind you, and lo and behold, do I find not only is there Herbert burns, he is a fighter. He is the brother of Gilbert. And he’s a Jiu Jitsu blackbelt who happened to get crucifix by another fighter, which I thought was strange, but okay, we will discuss that later. Well, yeah, I mean, a lot of protonate. A lot of growth, I passed

Unknown Speaker 17:17
out the harbor burn

Kelechi Onyebuchi 17:20
during the fight with what’s his name? His brother Gilbert burns. I forgot who he fought last. Oh, it was Woodley. They were talking about his brother too. And I was expecting like, if it started the fight that it was gonna be just this barnburner. Like, he’d have that same energy that that Gilbert. Herbert is not the same class of fighter.

Ryan Smith 17:42
Well, you know, that’s something we should talk about his siblings in the UFC, who aren’t as good as their as the other sibling. So you know, who’s another arms. I’ve got a screwdriver here.

So another pair of siblings who fight in the UFC where one is not as good as the other is the chef Kinko’s. So you’ve got Valentina Shevchenko, who is the 125 champion, and he got antamina. Chef chinko who’s basically the speed bump for anyone who wants to fight Valentino. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 18:23
What about

John Keyes 18:26

Ryan Smith 18:28
yet one of the champ one got kicked in the butt in Dallas. by Ryan Benoit.

You got the DS brother, right? Yes, he did. Cuz he and I were in the audience when it happened. Yeah. You got the you got the you got the DS brothers.

John Keyes 18:56
Say that

Kelechi Onyebuchi 18:57
you think are pretty decent.

John Keyes 18:59
They’re both pretty decent. Well, it’s a pretty decent what one doesn’t one is a better striker wants a better Grappler and both

Kelechi Onyebuchi 19:05
should never be in the octagon again.

John Keyes 19:08
Wow. That’s hurtful.

Ryan Smith 19:11
But what about IRAs? Oh, yeah.

John Keyes 19:16
Well, I you

Unknown Speaker 19:21

Unknown Speaker 19:25
got off the rails.

Ryan Smith 19:28
off the rails like

John Keyes 19:30
jump track. Nah, there’s no about that one. I mean, big dog was big knob that was the heavyweight champion. Did a little dog get a championship?

Ryan Smith 19:41
Wait big naugles heavyweight champion? Was it in pride or what?

John Keyes 19:45
I think it was in pride.

Ryan Smith 19:47
Not in UFC.

John Keyes 19:48
No, no, it was never your favorite fighter.

Ryan Smith 19:51
Frank Mir broke his arm. Big nons arm. Yeah, I remember that. I see why he said Yeah. He said yeah, he admitted that Frank Mears his favorite fighter. Ah,

John Keyes 20:03
you just want a man.

Ryan Smith 20:06
coming for all your next. Alright, um, yeah, so anyway, it looks like Herbert burns is not as good as his brother. Um, Junior dos Santos Do you know Santos? Uh, got knocked out by jairzinho Rosen straw. Okay.

George Stallworth 20:30
Stepping out?

Ryan Smith 20:31
Yeah, that was an ugly mustache. He needs he needs he needs to not do this mustache.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 20:36
Yeah, it was it wasn’t a great look.

John Keyes 20:39
Right. It was definitely failed, man. Come on.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 20:42
I will say it was a good fight, though. I know there’s question of whether JDs is done. But the reality is he put on a good show against a training partner who is on the rise and up and coming and you just got caught. And with two guys throwing power shots like that. I don’t think it diminishes from JTS his presence in the octagon, I think he showed that he’s still game at whatever age and he can press the fight. To me it was a much more interesting fight than we’ve seen from heavyweight for some of the other fighters. I don’t think JDs has done based on that performance. I think it was just a robot.

John Keyes 21:23
I mean it he’s at that level where his losses aren’t against like, you know, mediocre fighters. He’s fighting the the cream of the cream of the crop. And he’s getting he’s getting beat by the very best. Yeah, so I mean, is that is that? Is that a sign that he should retire? Now? That’s a sign he needs to go back to the drawing board and evolve.

Ryan Smith 21:51
Yeah, there you go. Well, in the shocker of the night, Marlin Vera defeated Sean O’Malley via TKO in round one. He was Yeah, it was a TKO.

John Keyes 22:07
No, well, yeah, it was technically a TKO cuz there was blows thrown afterward. Okay, after Sean O’Malley injured himself in the middle of fire. It looked like a roll a roll ankle but it was something much more they he said later that this is somebody that this is a recurring injury. So he it just, he was winning that fight until he wasn’t basically. And when Marlon Vera got on top of dropped started dropping them. Yeah, it was not a good look, it was not a good place for him.

Ryan Smith 22:43
So they took him out on a stretcher,

John Keyes 22:46
cuz he could not walk.

Unknown Speaker 22:49
So yeah, is more more, there’s several theories about what happened.

George Stallworth 22:55
The first one was that he checked the kick, and probably got nerve damage from being hit. The second was that when he kicked that he actually maybe turned over a little too far, and hit the nerve and got dead leg. And so that’s what we saw him like tripping slip, when he tried to push off of that foot. And then later again, that foot was still dead or whatever. And we’ve seen this before. I think Michael Chandler has happened him like twice in a fight. Henry sudo I happened to him once in a fight. And it’s been like one or two other fighters that this happened to and that we’re hoping that’s what it is. Because apparently, they went and got it checked out. And they hadn’t found anything wrong, but they’re still waiting for the swelling to go down so they can do an MRI is just the last thing I heard on.

Ryan Smith 23:38
So George, have you ever experienced it

George Stallworth 23:41
now, but it’s becoming more and more common, because of the calf kick from what I understand. You know, a lot of guys are really not just attacking the quad or the upper portion of the leg. They’re going after the lower portion of the calf. And apparently there’s a nerve in it if you hit it just right, it didn’t your leg.

John Keyes 23:58
Huh? Been there?

Kelechi Onyebuchi 24:00
got that from a calf slicer and that is not fun. Like

George Stallworth 24:07
and it fools you like it’s such an injury that’s gonna need you know, some doctor’s attention or a surgery or something within like two or three days later, it’s like never happened. It’s like the nerve just clicked kicks back on.

Ryan Smith 24:21
So it’s something that you should fight through them.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 24:24
Not Not Not the way

George Stallworth 24:25
he can. He had the leg is dead essentially. It’s it’s, it’s sleep. There’s nothing you can do with it. It has no feeling no nothing at that point. And we don’t even know for sure that this is what happened with with Shawn. You get what I’m saying. So

Kelechi Onyebuchi 24:43
what’s really gonna lead to if this is a recurring injury, it’s going to be something that pops up a lot for him. Just that that quick in analysis and consistent fates. It’s the fact that he plants his foot when he does his face. That, I just think that, like, I get what he’s trying to do to throw people off on his attack angles and it’s very McGregor esque. But it’s, it’s a lot of unnecessary movement. And if he’s prone to that, whatever injury is happening with his ankle, he’s gonna have to find a new way to to attack and maybe settle in more like McGregor does where it’s more smooth movements versus like this Herky jerky just trying to catch you off balance when he strikes. So I think he’s got a lot of room to grow in that and that’s coming from a guy who doesn’t like Shawn, but I feel like his fight style can continue to improve and what’s worked for him in the past is just, it’s dangerous for him to continue down that path. And I think he’s young enough and smart enough that he’ll be able to adapt. And I think we’ll see some different footwork. I will say I loved how, how well he gets to the outside with his footwork and just lulls you into a position. But he’s got to find a better way to do it.

Ryan Smith 25:58
All right. So in the main event of the evening, Steve a meal chick defended his title by defeating Daniel Cormier, a via unanimous decision. Well, the only thing that since I didn’t get to watch the fight live, the only thing that I saw was I poke I poke. I poke. So

Unknown Speaker 26:21
How bad was it before the I poke

Kelechi Onyebuchi 26:23
was steep a knocked out call me a right at the bell chromeos down, comes back up tries to swing

Unknown Speaker 26:31
wobbles to his corner.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 26:33
Corner. And he’s the audio was like, was I out? Did I draw? Yeah, bro.

John Keyes 26:38
You were done? No way. Yeah, look at the second round. Did that happen? A second? Yeah.

George Stallworth 26:47
Yeah, that that creates the argument for why they shouldn’t have audio in the corners. Like everybody in the audience knew at that point. This fight was over with Yeah, no way.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 26:59
Yeah, yeah. He was cooked well before the I poke. Yeah.

George Stallworth 27:06
And on top of that, I’ll go ahead. I was already pretty dented up before the eye poke ever occurred like Steve he stuck his fist off in there enough already to do the damage that Daniel said hazmat

John Keyes 27:21
but that last I poke was was a it was like this much into into his eye. And you can see it’s just pretty much it was almost three stooges level type.

Ryan Smith 27:35
Wow. Wow. So this by it a few more seconds the fight would have ended in the second round with a knockout.

Unknown Speaker 27:44
Everyone gonna be long.

John Keyes 27:45
Yeah, just take care of your middle finger just running against the wall. That’s that’s just looks like the exact motion that it that it took. And it was just brutal at that point. And it pretty much I could see in the third round that Dan was was taken was taken around off. And he was willing to give that tone. But after that I poke it was pretty much it was all shut down at that point. Because he was definitely definitely say it changed everything about his fighting.

George Stallworth 28:13
There. There’s a population out there saying that Daniel won two rounds. How?

Unknown Speaker 28:19
Well actually,

George Stallworth 28:20
I’m still not quite unlike, which was the what was the second round anyone? I’ve given the first one. I’ll just say okay, we’ll give him the person. First one. I don’t think he want it. But I’ll give it to him. What was the other round and other people say he wanted? I didn’t get that.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 28:39
I mean it. You might give him a couple of he might have stolen around with a late round flurry against, I forget what was it? But it wasn’t to me not enough to steal the whole round like Dominic dominated he never figured out how to deal with the double underhooks like he’s 100% accurate when he said like in the first round. first fight steepy didn’t do that they were caught into over under and Cormier was able to escape. It looked like Kobe did not one time in practice, work on the double underhooks and how to escape. So he doesn’t expect you

George Stallworth 29:19
know what that also says though, for someone like DC who analyzes and breaks down bikes on a consistent basis. He will say he has a hard time making adjustments in real time.

John Keyes 29:32
Oh, okay. Yeah, that’s true. I agree that and there’s something else that a lot of people are not really speaking on. I’m just like, Why don’t y’all see this is that CFA was taking moves from john Jones in a sense, a lot. He took the spinning elbow from from the break from john Jones. He took the high kick that knock the knock Daniel Korea, call me out in their second encounter. Between john doe the third I’m sorry, the third the same high kick that john Jones talked about steep a Actually, it was a two. Let’s do two I’m sorry. He Yeah, yeah. Thank you for pointing that out there. Thank you. I’m sorry. I said I said three, two, but that being though he got he hit him with that same high kick doing the exact same movement that everybody predicted Daniel Cormier never never corrected himself from that kick. But

Ryan Smith 30:33
I didn’t want to make it just as well. But But why would he? Why would he make an adjustment and I know I watched

Unknown Speaker 30:40
the fight but also the last fight

Ryan Smith 30:43
he was winning that fight he was winning that fight till the end of the fight where he caught those shots to the ribs.

Unknown Speaker 30:50
He was in that fight. Oh, we didn’t even discuss that. What about the body shots john Did you see those? I did see device as he paid Did you see Oh,

John Keyes 31:00
yeah, he still was still having struggles with

George Stallworth 31:03
I forgot right and watch the fight. I didn’t

Ryan Smith 31:05
watch the fight so I don’t know. To me he was

John Keyes 31:08
still struggling against those bodies shot Believe it or not, he never adjusted and then speaking of adjustments, the builder

George Stallworth 31:15
GPA adjusted his body shot too steep it started out in the first fight though on the hook to the body. He switched it up in the second started jabbing the body left chapter it was do steep a lit him up the entire night and put on a great performance. And I don’t know why the UFC is hate. No, no man the way they do.

John Keyes 31:36
Because he is not he he happy I said I don’t want to say he’s not marketing. He’s very marketable. He is he’s very, pretty boy. He when he

George Stallworth 31:52
was shredded, he didn’t look good. He went in there put on a performance man. There’s nothing on the back and say to hate on steep eight at night. He walked in at 230 pounds. And he looked like he probably could have been to 20

John Keyes 32:04
Yeah, I mean, he literally his body, his whole body. I mean, compared to the last time we thought last time we thought he looked like melted ice cream compared to what he looked like when he walked in that ring Saturday night. Because he was still he was a lot more chunkier and the last fight than this fight this fight. He was shredded. Is he you know his body was there. He

George Stallworth 32:25
just he walked out. I thought his walkout was gangsta is here.

John Keyes 32:31
Oh, really? I didn’t get he walked out

George Stallworth 32:33
chewing gum. I’m going to hit my belt. I’ll be right back.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 32:44
Tire start to finish of what that looked like. It was a bit of a laissez faire clinic right. So as I’m gonna go in here, there were shots he did not take he could have easily ended the fight in the second and third a couple of times. Like you talked about the shots to the body where cornea is like leaning too hard into the head kid was there all day? I was surprised that didn’t happen. But

John Keyes 33:09
yeah, any blocked and blocked it. But it was not an effective block. And I’m just like, Wow, you really, I mean, as a fighter, I would think that every time that you lose, you’ve created the fence against that. Oh, how you lost.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 33:25
But I still think that there was somewhat of a start to finish theme with the way that Steve Vai came into the octagon just relaxed. He’s like I came in here with a game plan. He never looks stressed about any part of it. He held his own. There’s a lot of that, to me a lot of that Huisman energy of I can control this fight. And that’s all I have to do to win to retain this championship. So he did what he had to do no excitement at the end, because he knew that this was just clinical to him. Like he came in unbothered and he left unbothered.

John Keyes 33:58
They’ll say his took shots well, to hit him with a couple of good shots. didn’t bother him at all. And maybe just maybe that’s the reason why Dana doesn’t like him because he doesn’t have that. That energy that other fires do come in with. That’s excited. That’s you know, pumped up to 11. Steve a comes in they’re flatlined as not like a flatline like he’s boring. It’s a flatline. Like, watch me explode on him right quick. And he’ll go in there is that, that? Yeah, do disability paths and get out and he’s not even if he if he didn’t have to talk to people, he wouldn’t talk to people. That’s the thing I kind of appreciate about Steve pay is that he’s just no nonsense,

Ryan Smith 34:44
but but you need you need your champions to be able to talk on the mic. And unfortunately, you know, you don’t really talk a whole lot on the

George Stallworth 34:58
chocolate Without interesting enough on his own, this man still maintains a career as a paramedic slash firefighter.

Ryan Smith 35:06
Yes, he’s got all the things. He’s just terrible on the mic. I mean, he’s terrible.

George Stallworth 35:12
To hell with the mic. He don’t need it. Just, I want you to know. Yeah, this is my voice does not talk. You’re not gonna understand me. But you know what? I’m the heavyweight. I’m the greatest fighter on the planet.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 35:25
I agree. Like, what’s the point of having a UFC marketing group if they can’t figure out how to market people who are good fighters,

John Keyes 35:31
especially when you have a lifestyle? Like, okay, if you’re, if you’re a first responder, you’re telling me you can’t mark it that you need to fire that guy, you need to fire them and go

George Stallworth 35:46
oh, I’ll show they need to be putting a camera on this man. 24 seven, following him and making making the fact that he’s not good on speaking on the mic. Part of who he is.

Ryan Smith 35:59
He would he would lose a ratings battle against watching paint dry. I’m serious. great fighter. great fighter. I’m not gonna look, I’m not gonna I’m not gonna talk bad about his

George Stallworth 36:12
way, you’re not gonna convince me that you wouldn’t watch a meal to show drama following him. For a day.

Ryan Smith 36:19
I have been doing an MMA podcast for over five years. Heck, yeah, I’m gonna watch it. But I’m talking about the normal fan. Fan.

John Keyes 36:29
So wait a minute, wait a minute, you’re in marketing? Are you not?

Ryan Smith 36:33

John Keyes 36:34
Oh, do you market? How would you market?

Ryan Smith 36:42
Okay, so to be honest, it would be I would be would be. I would begrudgingly do it. But it’s your right, that you would have to really amp up all of his service as a firefighter and EMT, to show that he is kind of that all American family man who happens to also be this world beater when it comes to being in the heavyweight champion of the world in the UFC. Like you have to be able to show all of that behind the scenes stuff. I would not have him talk or I’d have him talk with captions on the bottom because he’s so bad on the mic. I wouldn’t have other people talk for him. Like I would actually have coaches and other people it would be him if he’d be just nodding.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 37:28
They do that for other fighters. So the way like it sounds ridiculous, but they actually do that in the UFC film. So

John Keyes 37:36
they say, Hey, Steve, how did you feel about this? And he looked at

me like he said it was great.

Ryan Smith 37:54
No, I would To be honest, I would show I would show lots of footage of sleep a meal chick training. I would show lots of footage of him at home and then voice over his coach. Yeah, so steep pay really, you know really felt great about the last fight that ended up ended up? I’d have someone else doing the talking. And then you would you would have like Steve pay saying, just a few things. And then that’s it. Like everything from a boat voice track would be what else?

George Stallworth 38:24
Yeah, remember the movie hot at night?

Ryan Smith 38:29
All right, I’m ready for this one.

Unknown Speaker 38:31
I’m telling

George Stallworth 38:35
ya, Eddie Murphy. Yes. So they had a character and if it was playing the heavyweight champion of the world, and the heavyweight champion, the world could not speak. Oh, yes, sir. They can

get out a sentence to save his life.

John Keyes 38:57
But he was wrong.

George Stallworth 38:58
Yes. I’m telling you that the UFC is missing a golden nugget. They are man and I hate it for them. I hate it for Steve a man because he doesn’t deserve this treatment. You know what I mean? He really does it.

Ryan Smith 39:12
And he says as much too he says that, you know, despite being the UFC Heavyweight goat, he still feels like he’s always getting pooped on. And I mean, he he’s right. And now that he that it looks like he’s gonna be facing Francis in Ghana, a person that he is already beaten. prednisone ganu is the betting favorite oversleep a meal chick coming into the minus 25

John Keyes 39:43
Max Holloway though. first couple of times. They did that to max all the way that they made him the underdog and Max like, that’s fine. You just don’t make me my homeboys rich. And that’s exactly the mentality. The CPA needs to go in there with. You know what? He knows his fans. He knows that too. People that like him, and they know the reason why. Okay,

Kelechi Onyebuchi 40:03
demoralizing when you’ve done the work. And this is time and time again, I think this is why you get such a low energy stay at the end because greatest of all time, but you treat me as if it’s my first contract

John Keyes 40:14
signing. But see, that’s the thing. You got to take that energy and turn it into instead of saying, You treat me bad. You turn into make sure you get my name right on the internet and watch him watch this and go out there and destroy whoever wants to

Ryan Smith 40:30
not him. That is not steeping. He is not gonna talk smack like that. He’s

John Keyes 40:36
exactly, that’s exactly what that equates to. That’s exactly what needs to quit. And just go out there and beat Oh, beat that V. Whoever they throw in front of you beat him into the air. Like he stole something from his mama, and then walk out.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 40:52
Every fight that he’s been in that he’s got him the most title defenses?

John Keyes 40:56
Pretty much. Yes. Yeah,

Ryan Smith 40:58
yeah. But But you see, that’s when it becomes like, classic. So he goes in, he fights the next person, let’s say, for instance, in Ghana, and he takes out for instance, in Ghana, they put the mic in his face. All he’s got to say is who’s next? And that’s it. Don’t say anything else. deeping

John Keyes 41:15
That’s it. Steve. Hey, listen to us, man. We got you. Yeah, just go NASA. and have your coach who’s next and just walk out. Walk out

Kelechi Onyebuchi 41:26
to be his walkout music. Yeah,

Ryan Smith 41:32
but you know, it’s it’s bad when people like Nate dheas does better on the mic than steeping. myalgic. Okay.

George Stallworth 41:42
Take a shot over.

John Keyes 41:44
Don’t you dare. Okay, so Navy brothers. One day,

Ryan Smith 41:50
Nate Diaz is better on the mic to see pay me Oh, chick,

John Keyes 41:53
excuse me wrong. They’re on that chael sonnen level type smack talk. Okay, that’s what they do. Alright. You cannot take that away from them.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 42:03
I will say that steeping actively tried to play the heel a little bit with this whole Cormier thing, the trilogy and he says as much as say, we had our thing back and forth for the trilogy. But that’s over here. I had a great career. And I think at the end of the day, he’s been such a good guy for so long. He can’t turn now and become a healer, this this ultimate tough guy. That guy

John Keyes 42:26
is not built for that he’s not he’s built to be he’s built to be. He’s built a Captain America

George Stallworth 42:33
to be pushed in that direction. When you look at the way the UFC is treating them, and how fans are seeing the treatment that he receives. I mean, who wouldn’t react in a negative way? Or why would we be upset with him, but react in whatever way he he Hayes’s the result of the treatment he’s received from his employers? Well, you know where that comes from? Right?

Kelechi Onyebuchi 42:55
Kobe Covington. Well,

John Keyes 42:56
okay that but I’ve seen I’ve watched enough wrestling in my day to see that he people wrestlers that come out with extreme good goody two shoes kayfabe pop they always get trashed the biggest example of that was the rock the rock came in there was such a what a spit clean he was a Polish little goody goody two shoe and there will be signs on the side saying die rocky die. So what made him angry and it turned it around and and he used that energy and just let the people know how he felt.

Ryan Smith 43:34
Okay, not not to go not to go too deep into the professional wrestling angle here. Because that that was that was all the whole Attitude Era. Stone Cold and all those guys, but the one that made me think about is the Honky Tonk man works out there. Remember the Honky Tonk man, I thought man came out. He was he was, he was a babyface. He was. He was a good guy, and people booed him and booed him and booed him and he turned heel. I’m really I’m willing to place a bet on that one. homeboy. He came out he came out as a baby face. Nobody liked him. And, and, and then he turned heel, and started hitting people with it with the guitar.

Unknown Speaker 44:23

John Keyes 44:24
it is now we both we both remember that part, but

Kelechi Onyebuchi 44:31
I’ll go ahead and leave friends who are professional wrestlers, still. So my goal is now to ask them how does that turn happen? Is it led by the athlete or led by the organization? Because I think there’s a big difference in that.

Ryan Smith 44:46
I think it’s probably it has to be led by the organization. But it’s a it’s big. I think it’s more the people. I think it’s because of the people because this fighter is not getting the it’s not getting the the crowd reaction that They had hoped because everything scripted, right? So they scripted him to be a baby face. And if the crowd isn’t buying it, then they’re like, Well, sorry, we’re gonna have to turn you he’ll just so that we can get a better reaction. They want to hate you anyway. So let’s just, let’s just have them hate you.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 45:17
So maybe the UFC needs to take some interns from WWE and have them teach fighters how to turn heel.

John Keyes 45:27
I think they just need to let steep a learn from chill son and on how to speak into the mic. Okay, not with the same attitude, but just to learn how to

Unknown Speaker 45:39
make people what they aren’t.

John Keyes 45:43
Have him tell jokes or anything, but just to learn how to speak into the mic. And and just learn how to, to,

Kelechi Onyebuchi 45:51
you know, address the crowd? Or we can go ahead of ourselves. Yes, there are a chance that steep a is just over all of this drama. He’s the greatest of all time for a heavyweight? There’s not much more he can do. He’s not a big money draw. fights are just incremental income. So is it possible that we are just at an era where CPAs ready to step away?

John Keyes 46:15
He’s got a way he’s got he’s got one more. There’s, there’s there’s one, there’s a couple of super challenges going on. In the heavyweight division right now. One in the form of Francis in Ghana. Okay, one in the form ultimately, of john Jones.

George Stallworth 46:34
So, back to that. I don’t like to go in on that part. Cuz I think y’all had the path to the title fight for john Jones backwards. Yeah. Say Hey, Francis versus Steve a, Francis wins. Francis and john Johnson. I think it’s just the opposite way. Or the path is reverse. JOHN comes in and steals that fight from Francis by Steve a. JOHN has the film and then fights Francis.

Ryan Smith 47:02
I mean, it’s it’s a compelling idea. I just don’t think it’s gonna happen. I think that I would

George Stallworth 47:12
just vacated his belt. And it’s going to fight for a heavyweight championship belt, baby boy.

John Keyes 47:19
I mean, think about it. He’s he made that announcement and stole the thunder from the heavyweight division. heavyweight division had a lot to celebrate on Saturday.

George Stallworth 47:30
And told him he was on his way. He said, championships. I’ll be seeing you soon. Exactly.

John Keyes 47:37
Blew Joe Rogan’s mind right there on screen. He did not see that coming. Okay, it actually set him up.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 47:45
Neither did Cormier.

John Keyes 47:47
Oh, man. Yeah.

Ryan Smith 47:50
All I gotta say about this whole thing about john Jones stealing the heavyweight title shot.

Unknown Speaker 47:57
Don’t believe.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 48:02
wondering, you were queuing up in the back.

George Stallworth 48:07
Row ready when john Jones is fine, but heavyweight champion.

Ryan Smith 48:11
We got we got lots we got lots of lots of code to be eaten for sure. But let me just say this, you know, for Francis in Ghana in that title shot

got the soundboard up man. We full fidelity today. Alright, so let’s close the book on this one and put this one on the shelf because this card is history and go right into some of the headlines that are happening outside of UFC 252 and this is part of the angles.

All right, last week, we reported that Michael Chandler of Bella tour fame and multiple time Bella tour champion is now a free agent and Dana White said he would love to meet with the former Bella tour champ is what do you think the odds are that Dana White can get Michael Chandler to the UFC.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 49:19
Really high. Who doesn’t want to come to the UFC?

John Keyes 49:22
He’ll go he’ll go he wants to he wants to test himself in that in that in the in the lion pit. He was going to UFC.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 49:30
He was pretty forget Bare Knuckle championship though.

John Keyes 49:35
That’s hard to go through. Because he’s got a low ball of his weight. Okay. Okay, Paul.

Ryan Smith 49:49
impression right here.

Unknown Speaker 49:54

John Keyes 49:56
it’s too tempting. And it seems like I don’t Be very wary about accepting an invitation from Dana White when you’re coming from Bella tour because it’s almost like he wants to embarrass bellator fighters. So I would be very wary about that that

Unknown Speaker 50:14
thing or

John Keyes 50:15
Yeah, alpha if Dana White has talked bad about you? Did he turn around like Yeah, come on over. He’s coming to embarrass you. Right?

Ryan Smith 50:25
Yeah, you know, I think Michael Chandler it would be a steal if he if they were able to get him from bevel tour. He is he is a great fighter and the way that he put Benson hindered Henderson down in the first round of his last fight, like Benson Henderson used to be kind of the cream of the crop of the UFC. Mean, smooth fighting with a toothpick hidden in his mouth. That was what we used to talk about. And now bits of Henderson can barely last round with Michael Chandler. Michael Chandler comes to the to the UFC, he could be a force. Remember, a lot of those Strikeforce fighters didn’t get get a lot of respect until they crossed over into the UFC and then the Robbie Lawler is popped up and you know, even Tim Kennedy for a while was was one of those guys that was putting it on these on these UFC fighters. So Michael Chandler could be a disruptive force. And the number one person he said he would like to fight. Just engaging.

Unknown Speaker 51:24
slugfest. Oh, yeah,

Ryan Smith 51:26
bloodbath, because they’ve got mutual opponents and Eddie Alvarez, right.

John Keyes 51:31
Do that. Is that the Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon that they have between each other?

Ryan Smith 51:37
Yes. And so Eddie Alvarez beat justin he, but Michael Chandler beat Eddie Alvarez. So Michael Chandler wants that fight with Justin gates. You you’ve got two guys who are wrestlers that prefer striking. That’s fireworks. I want to see that fight. So I’m hoping that Dana White gets this gets this fighter in the UFC. Take it to if they take it from Bella tour, man, I want to I want to see this. I want to see what he can do. Because that’s welterweight, right? I mean, that’s a lightweight. That’s 155. So you could see Michael Chandler potentially fighting. Tony Ferguson. You could see him fighting Conor, probably not Conor McGregor, but you could see him fighting some of these other guys. Dustin? Yeah, we’ll get to. That could be this is conspicuous.

John Keyes 52:29
Let’s talk about let’s talk about the elephant in the room.

Ryan Smith 52:33
The elephant in the room is this. We have a fight with Habib the American men off at UFC 254 it’s likely going to happen in fight island against Justin Gachi. This is the fight that’s going to unify the 155 pound title. Habib the Mega Man is coming into this at 28. And oh, he says he’s retiring. He wants to retire. 30 you know, he’s got two fights left. Just engage he if he wins because 29 and Oh, he’s got one fight left that he wants to fight and that person is arguably the goat of the of the What do you call it the previous era?

Unknown Speaker 53:15

George Stallworth 53:21
Oh, man fight.

John Keyes 53:23
It’s not the old man fight is when you break it down. It is. I mean, if you look at the numbers, yes, he wants to fight the old man. But if you look at the man, the myth, the legend of George St. Pierre, that is not the same.

George Stallworth 53:39
Not the same.

As if not very kind of fighters, man. I guess Joelle

Ryan Smith 53:51

John Keyes 53:52
Yeah, look at him.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 53:55
I mean, outliers don’t really count. And

Ryan Smith 54:01
look, is he still competitive, though?

Unknown Speaker 54:03

George Stallworth 54:05
But is he winning? Why do we want to go fight somebody who we know has a lesson chance of winning.

Ryan Smith 54:15
h bomb.

John Keyes 54:16
I’m sure it’s not like it’s like. Yeah, it’s not like it’s less than less than chance. But it’s not a losing chance. This is still George St. Pierre. This is still a quintessential martial artists at heart. He will be up for that challenge. All right. Last time you saw training video of GSP.

Ryan Smith 54:37
Not too long ago.

John Keyes 54:39
Yeah, not

George Stallworth 54:41
good. Not happy about it. He fought it. What was it a catchweight at 181 185 181

John Keyes 54:46
at 185.

George Stallworth 54:49
And now we want him to fight at 155 and he’s

Ryan Smith 54:52
the 165

John Keyes 54:55
Yeah, it wasn’t we he is George St. Pierre is actually To the one that’s kind of chomping at the bit to do it. And that’s that that’s what what impresses me that he is not he’s wanting to go up and down the scales to fight the very best. Is there no

Kelechi Onyebuchi 55:12
better fighter who would make sense? Like someone who’s actively on the UFC roster who’s proven so that’s what bothers me about this whole thing

Ryan Smith 55:22
with Habib though, I mean, the only person that he would have left the fight that he hasn’t fought is Tony Ferguson.

John Keyes 55:29
That fight is correct. That’s never gonna happen.

Ryan Smith 55:32
That fight is never gonna happen. Who else is gonna give him at 155 pounds? Every I

John Keyes 55:37
mean, the Gods of Egypt has cursed the Finnish gods have cursed him. The American folklore heroes of Kirstin adventures Kirsten, I’m almost That’s him. That’s guardians. The Filipino gods, the Japanese gods, all of them. They said, Nah, man. All day waiting on his Godzilla and Cthulhu.

Ryan Smith 56:02
Let’s listen. All I gotta say is this, I firmly believe had they allowed Tony Ferguson and Habib in America better to fight 2020 would not have sucked as bad as it did. Like all of the things that happened would have been

Unknown Speaker 56:18
out there. I support this. It would

Ryan Smith 56:21
have none of this we would not have had the you know, COVID would have gone away. It wouldn’t have any no murder Hornets. No cannibal ants coming out of Chernobyl.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 56:31
Like oh stop this will still work. Hundred percent.

Ryan Smith 56:36
We can bring all of this to the fact that because Tony Ferguson and Habib no Mega Man, I’ve never fought 2020 is what we get. I believe that it’s not that the gods are cursing us. They are punishing us because we couldn’t make it happen for them.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 56:50
We destroyed the timeline.

John Keyes 56:51
What if What if that the moment that Tony threw a punch? What Yeah, that was that would be the seven side? What would that be? The seal breaks the gates of heaven open. And it all happens right there.

Ryan Smith 57:13
You know, that would be like the rapture, shoot. Boom. We all go up. We get caught up.

You where I’m going?

Unknown Speaker 57:29

Unknown Speaker 57:35
I’m going up yonder.

Unknown Speaker 57:42

Unknown Speaker 57:46

Unknown Speaker 57:51

John Keyes 57:53
every other week, and we were more calm than what we are tonight. Okay.

Ryan Smith 58:00
That’s vodka in his in his junk. That ain’t any water. Oh,

Kelechi Onyebuchi 58:09
I’m still not excited about the GSP thing just because I feel like it’s not gonna be the GSP that we saw in 2008. Or, I don’t know anytime before 2020 like he’s he’s, he’s lost a step. And it’s not as big of a win for kobiet but I can see why everyone else is excited and it’s gonna be a payday and I think both fighters deserve a really good payday. So that’s the only reason I’m here for it. I’m I’m here. Conspiracy Theory music right was that Inspector Gadget All right.

Ryan Smith 58:50
So uh, Paul Acosta, and Israel out of Sanya, UFC 253 has been moved to September 26. Okay, so they are going to be fighting in fight Island in Abu Dhabi. Of course. They were originally planned to fight in the apex arena. But you know, neither one of these guys are American. So how you gonna get into the country?

Kelechi Onyebuchi 59:19
arena fights there’s not much of a difference, but there is

John Keyes 59:25
a huge difference a huge difference. That ring

Ryan Smith 59:28
is small. It’s a tiny ring. Like

Unknown Speaker 59:33
whatever Yeah, yeah,

Ryan Smith 59:34
maybe maybe Israel adesanya is like I’m not gonna face nap. A dude walking around at 220 pounds. who fights at 185

Unknown Speaker 59:44
walked around at 230

Ryan Smith 59:46
Well, he this picture of him much like you have to lose

Kelechi Onyebuchi 59:49
muscle to get that low, don’t you?

Ryan Smith 59:52
You’ve seen the fight. Dude is rip.

John Keyes 59:54
Just like muscle. He’s got muscles in his neck, man. neck muscles right? Yeah.

Ryan Smith 1:00:14
His carotid has ABS muscles

John Keyes 1:00:17
his carotid have ABS on it. Okay. I mean, this dude is ripped. And he got and he’s 220 now and he’s gonna go down to 185 he No he’s not that dude. He’s not that dude I want to see

Ryan Smith 1:00:31
yeah not in the apex arena where it’s a small it’s you’re on a Sunday and he needs the room. He’s gonna have to move

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:00:40
that’s that’s for me. It’s going to be an interesting fight. I think Dana White has it right that polyspace is going to force his knee to strike but I personally think that it comes down to who lands the first combo like if it is he feels that pain a cost up first and he’s got to be on his bike. But if cost of therms first and his he counters and hits him with just a three punch combo, I think that’s gonna slow cost down a lot because Israel doesn’t hit you with power but as he’s always said, he’s a precision fighter. I think all three of those are gonna land right on the button and really make cost to think about what’s happening.

Ryan Smith 1:01:19
It’s they say this could be the fight of the year.

John Keyes 1:01:24
I hope Okay, they also say y’all Romero vs is Razzano is gonna be the fight of the year.

Ryan Smith 1:01:30
Well, it was at that time it was the fight of the year because it was the only fight that actually scheduled. I’m speaking of fights, Anthony Smith is back. Looks like he found all his teeth and was able to put them back in his mouth. He’s gonna be fighting Alexander Ray kick of UC Vegas eight. But it’s even though they’re headlining. It’s only a three round fight.

George Stallworth 1:02:03
going in on people tonight. Like really? Mr. Smith can’t get no no respect from you, man. He had to talk about it in put fire in his teeth. The man got robbed in his home he defended himself. He did not get on national TV. Why just go

John Keyes 1:02:20
home and you try to send them out to one of our own. What’s up with that?

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:02:26
You know that, like, it is possible for me to see him at King soopers. Like,

Ryan Smith 1:02:31
okay, all right. Okay,

George Stallworth 1:02:34
Casey, he was about to attribute all that to you. You

Ryan Smith 1:02:38
told me to say it. It’s here in the run sheet. Why would I talk about my cousin that way? That’s my cousin. Both Smith’s

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:02:51
in the pre fight pre show that I ran into the factory ex guys like y’all talking smack like this is how I ended up.

Ryan Smith 1:03:04
ECC coleccion he’s leasing there. Hold on, hold on. Y’all can’t y’all can’t be talking about factory x anymore. Please.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:03:16
Speaking of which, because we missed that on that previous card, but the CO may Why am I holding a straw? Thank you, right. Yeah. That co main is gonna be Brandon Roybal from factory Yeah. And he’s been on a win streak so that’s that’s gonna be a real fun fun fight leading up to the Israel fight because I think it’s just the way that card is stacked as its action like it’s just building with fighters who have been really big and having these like these barnburner so I’m excited for that. That factory x plug back to Anthony’s May he

George Stallworth 1:03:52
hit a plug come out like a yo plug on shall we be net as news right?

Ryan Smith 1:03:57
Yeah, you know, but listen, that’s the that’s that’s the drinking game. If you’re playing the drinking game, Collette you just shouted out factory x therefore take a drink.

George Stallworth 1:04:08
He got a he got a by default set out last week when Cody was on duty. You sure did. away

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:04:21
with this Anthony Smith fight.

John Keyes 1:04:22
Hey, Casey, what’s up?

George Stallworth 1:04:25
Oh, when are you coming to Dallas? I do want to come to class man.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:04:29
The first week I’m still trying to figure out like the exact dates but it’s that first week in September. I’ve got a wedding to go to there. So don’t worry. Are you gonna be here on a Monday for wedding? Because I’m trying not to get my face beaten.

Ryan Smith 1:04:44
Are you gonna be here on a Monday

George Stallworth 1:04:45
just do some bad work? Well, we keep it nice and light. Just compare work. Get a session. I’m gonna

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:04:51
be there for a full week for sure. either before or after. So yeah, well probably.

Ryan Smith 1:04:56
If you want to. You want to you want to come back and show from here. Yeah.

John Keyes 1:05:01
I show in the same room. That would probably be better

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:05:07
if any one of your coffee catching hands.

Ryan Smith 1:05:13
My own house right now,

Unknown Speaker 1:05:15
I’ve got a practice.

John Keyes 1:05:19
Face Mask up

George Stallworth 1:05:24
quite a few times. When are we going back to the lightning round?

Ryan Smith 1:05:28
Um, we should we should talk about it. I mean, yeah.

Unknown Speaker 1:05:35
Okay. All right. Hold

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:05:36
on. I was like, did we just switch to the after show?

John Keyes 1:05:38

Ryan Smith 1:05:40
Like this show. Well, I apologize to all the viewers out there. The run sheet that I set up for tonight is not being followed. I’m the only one following the run sheet tonight. Tonight

John Keyes 1:05:52
Yeah. Because that reminds me

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:05:54
of Valentina Shevchenko.

Ryan Smith 1:05:58
We’re talking about siblings that are awesome versus their younger sisters. Um, Valentina. Shevchenko is coming in as a minus 1200 favorite over Jennifer Maya.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:06:13
Wow, do you even be able to send a fight like that? Like, if the odds are that bad?

Ryan Smith 1:06:21
Maybe pop,

George Stallworth 1:06:22
you know, like to win $100 Yes, the bid or not? Yeah.

Ryan Smith 1:06:27
Yes, I hand you 1200 dollars. And then you give me back $100 with that, like if I win. That’s that is so unfair. But you should just go ahead and bet on Jennifer Maya on the hopes that you get you know, fighters chance. That’s your puncher’s chance you might you might win like it’s worth the fight

Unknown Speaker 1:06:49
a man’s little

Ryan Smith 1:06:50
sister? No, but she is the most dangerous female at welterweight

John Keyes 1:06:54

Unknown Speaker 1:07:00
70 pounds

Ryan Smith 1:07:05
No, but she she did you know, she fought Joanne Calderwood just a few weeks ago, and, and put her in an armbar. You know, what is it? When they’re down it when they’re, instead of it being up, she was turned down and nearly ripped Joe and called it was Armand. So Jennifer Maya has has the Brazilian Jiu Jitsu skill. The question is whether or not she’s got to stand up to stand with Valentina Shevchenko. There are

Unknown Speaker 1:07:37
no, yeah.

Ryan Smith 1:07:39
Not at 125 maybe at 135 Amanda Nunez maybe,

Unknown Speaker 1:07:46
maybe allegedly.

Ryan Smith 1:07:48
And then finally, boxing referee inexplicably blows call on what was an obvious knockout. Did you guys see this? There was matchroom boxing on the zone in Oklahoma. Basically, it was Israel, mudroom ball versus Eric Walker. Now, this guy, Israel basically has a knockout in every one of his fights. And so he’s like, perfect. He’s fighting this guy, Eric Walker, who’s got way more experience. It’s a close fight matchroom off lands I think it’s a left hook or something like that catches a walker right on the jaw. Dude falls like, you know, falls and Skids along the ground. And the referee does not call it a knockout. The guy is laying on the ground rolling around, clearly out. And the referee does not call it a knockdown. So if you hit the link in the run sheet, you can see it I’ve got it queued up, right when it happens.

John Keyes 1:08:55
I’m gonna watch this.

Ryan Smith 1:08:57
And so. Okay. So, so what you’ll see is that it’s clearly an as clearly as a clean shot, dude is out and it’s just rolling around the ground and the rest like no, that was your shoulder.

Unknown Speaker 1:09:13

Ryan Smith 1:09:15
Yeah, so it didn’t get home.

John Keyes 1:09:17
Let me go back. Yeah, let me go. Let me go back again.

Ryan Smith 1:09:19
My dream did win the fight, but he should have won by knockout and would have kept his streak of consecutive knockouts going. Because he clearly caught this

John Keyes 1:09:30
dude, goodness.

Ryan Smith 1:09:32
And there you go. That’s it.

George Stallworth 1:09:36
No, that’s not it. Right. You left something off the run. She was back to that color pasta. Paula Acosta, john, you remember something?

John Keyes 1:09:45
It was? Yeah. He was making like he was making a commentary. Can you?

George Stallworth 1:09:50
Can you read it? That one thing All

Ryan Smith 1:09:54
right. Okay, from MMA mania. Articles off. The article says Paula Costa is now 220 pounds of great a Brazilian beef. There you go, you guys and get your minds out the gutter. On MMA mania, you know, I like MMA mania. They’re one of the people that we get our stories from MMA mania. Shout out to you guys.

John Keyes 1:10:26
Yeah, you

Ryan Smith 1:10:27
guys are terrible. Let’s go into the final segment of

Unknown Speaker 1:10:30
the show.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:10:32
An accurate headline. Oh, my goodness, I do this 100% Brazilian muscle like

Unknown Speaker 1:10:37

Unknown Speaker 1:10:40
Here we go with the fight card.

Unknown Speaker 1:10:53
It’s a beautiful man.

Ryan Smith 1:10:57
I’m trying to change segments coming out of the SEC. So just so you guys know,

George Stallworth 1:11:03
I just want you to acknowledge the fact that somebody put on the run sheet. 220 pounds of great a Brazilian

Ryan Smith 1:11:11
article headline is the article headline.

Unknown Speaker 1:11:20
Oh, brother.

Unknown Speaker 1:11:22
The headline. Oh my gosh.

Ryan Smith 1:11:24
Okay, listen, we’re not gonna worry about who wrote the headline. Okay.

John Keyes 1:11:30
All the Curiosity just killed the cat. Go ahead.

Ryan Smith 1:11:34
We learned about who wrote the headline.

Unknown Speaker 1:11:38
All right.

Unknown Speaker 1:11:39
Are we all right?

Ryan Smith 1:11:48
Yes, that’s correct. It’s August 22. That’s this Saturday at the UFC Apex Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada. We’ve got five fights on the card. Daniel Rodriguez versus Takashi Sato. Not six nine. So buddy’s gonna get get ratted on. I’m Marissa Argo, aka peover versus Shana Dotson Dobson.

George Stallworth 1:12:15
Originally from Texas, alright. Marsha.

Unknown Speaker 1:12:20
Post D used to be her coach read. Oh, she mentioned that. That’s right.

Unknown Speaker 1:12:27
In the house,

Ryan Smith 1:12:28
we got Marsan priceet Neil versus Mike Rodriguez. In the CO Main Event ovince St. Prue is facing Alonzo minnifield a pre thought he was going up to heavyweight did we

John Keyes 1:12:48
Yeah, I didn’t back down I’m good bro.

George Stallworth 1:12:56
No, Alonzo is here out of Dallas as well. He’s He’s affordance guy. Oh wow. Really?

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:13:02
My money is on Alonzo right from the gate. Did you see the way that ran away from

Unknown Speaker 1:13:07
punch it?

Unknown Speaker 1:13:10
I mean, he was fighting over it. No, he

Ryan Smith 1:13:12
was no he was fighting. No, he was fighting a big Big Ben.

John Keyes 1:13:20
rock rock rock

Ryan Smith 1:13:21
band rock wall.

John Keyes 1:13:24
Rough wall Yeah, Roswell.

Ryan Smith 1:13:28
Like Rockwell, but Roswell. Yeah. And in the main event Pedro moon hosts versus Frankie Edgar. Munoz moontoast There you go. Yes. Munoz There you go. Even though it’s not Spillman? Yes.

John Keyes 1:13:43
Okay. Ah sound

Ryan Smith 1:13:46
that’d be Munoz.

Unknown Speaker 1:13:50
I’m just saying.

John Keyes 1:13:52
Yeah, help Bryan out with his pronounciation pronounciation.

Ryan Smith 1:13:56
Let’s help john out with his pronunciation of pronunciation. All right, co main event. Let’s make our pick. Are we all on Alonzo? minnifield. Or Is anybody like I got? I’m honorbound. I have to pick open St. Pru every single time.

John Keyes 1:14:12
So yeah.

Ryan Smith 1:14:14
All right. Shout out to the Q’s ovince St. preux. Come on, man.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:14:18
Oh God, yo boys. He did fold this time.

George Stallworth 1:14:27
So I think Alonzo is gonna give OSP a very, very difficult time. Don’t end it may or may not do it runs off. I think OSP fight southpaw. So Alonzo is going to have to make that adjustment. Once he makes that adjustment. I think he’s going to take osps head off. Yeah.

John Keyes 1:14:44
Yeah. So yeah, shout out to medfield. We’re rooting for you here.

Unknown Speaker 1:14:49
All right.

Ryan Smith 1:14:50
All right. And in the main event, Frankie Edgar vs Pedro. JOHN keys

Unknown Speaker 1:15:00
Oh man.

George Stallworth 1:15:03
I wasted Frankie at 135

John Keyes 1:15:05
Yeah, this is the faster Frankie or not. or not I know it’s easy. It’s getting a little long in the tooth. I’m with you. They’re in fight age. I’m still gonna go with Frank Jaeger. He beat my boy he beat my boy BJ Penn. I still I’ve been salty about it ever since. All right. So they’re

Ryan Smith 1:15:27
all right. GEORGE Giovanni

Unknown Speaker 1:15:32

Unknown Speaker 1:15:35
Munoz Mack Lachey

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:15:38
I have to pick Munoz because he is not doing well for fighters right now.

Ryan Smith 1:15:45
All right I’m going Frankie Edgar because I can pronounce his name

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John Keyes 1:15:57
m that keys to victory in s keys with the S

Ryan Smith 1:16:01

George Stallworth 1:16:03
M it dark side underscore muy Thai underscore

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:16:09
land I am living in Brian’s head rent free

also push pull crank

Ryan Smith 1:16:22
okay cuz I’m like are we doing this you can find on our way you can find us on our website at www combat sports talk.com you can get a combat sports talk shirt Amazon reactivated our our our stores you can now get a shirt maybe maybe George you could get a short shirt for the for the for the lady and she knows more about

George Stallworth 1:16:45
it yeah cuz Yeah, she she’s outside me. They they want to do the show. They are itching at the bit to be on the show and or run a show of their own. The ladies of combat sports talk.

Ryan Smith 1:17:01
All right, well, we may have to make that happen. Look up here you can follow us on all of your social media platforms we on every every platform that you want to find us on. We’re like visa we’re everywhere. No, it was an American Express. Visa. We’re everywhere you want to be. Um, shout out to MMA junkie MMA fighting MMA mania. Please don’t write suspect headlines in Romanian, bloody elbow and the intelligent defense discussion group where a lot of these discussions happen. And all the other sites that provide the stories that we use on our show on behalf of john Key’s George g money Stallworth Collette, she only a Buchi. I’m Ryan Smith, reminding you to keep your hands up, your chin tucked and throw bombs. We’ll catch you next time.

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