Episode 142 – UFC 253: Adesanya vs Costa (RECAP)

September 29, 2020 by No Comments


What a wild weekend it was at Fight Island for the UFC where Israel Adesanya defeated Paulo Costa via TKO in Round 2 of their 5 round championship Fight.  The Light Heavyweight division also crowned a new champion in Jan Blachowicz who called his shot and defeated Dominick Reyes via TKO in R2.  Get a recap of the card, the latest on the beef between Dana White and Conor McGregor and more!  Finally hear our picks for UFC Fight Island 4: Holm vs. Aldana.

Transcript

Ryan Smith 0:08
Welcome to combat sports talk a podcast dedicated to UFC and bellator discussion, the MMA community and combat sports in general. I’m your host, Ryan Smith. And joining me this week is the entire combat sports talk crew. We got john, the keys to victory keys.

John Keyes 0:25
What’s going on everybody? Did you know that the myth about Rice Krispies and sprite is just that a myth? You can actually digest Rice Krispies and drink sprite and not have your body explode?

Ryan Smith 0:41
I always thought it was pop rocks in soda.

John Keyes 0:45
You could do it with with with rice krispies, too. Okay, so

Ryan Smith 0:49
our Pop Rocks and soda still dangerous, or is that also a myth?

John Keyes 0:53
I believe that is a myth as well, but you know, I’ve never tried it because here I am.

Ryan Smith 1:00
Alright.

John Keyes 1:04
But all kidding aside, though, do not drink red bull and vodka or mafic Redbull or any type of liquor, because Red Bull digests into your system so fast. And when you have a poison like vodka in there, it really messes you up. So just FYI, college kids

Unknown Speaker 1:23
quit drinking. Oh, can

Unknown Speaker 1:25
you show told me this?

Ryan Smith 1:26
Well, I was gonna say,

John Keyes 1:28
Lady Javad. This is collections last time I want to send your condolences and is going to go fund me up by the end of the day.

Ryan Smith 1:37
So I want to send a shout out to Tom Rios. And the pay per view crew that we that we used to go on watch all the pay per views. Some What now? 10, almost 15 years ago, at Buffalo Wild Wings. That is all they used to drink at the table was Red Bull and vodka. And I mean, it was like maybe what? 5678 rounds. It was crazy. All

John Keyes 2:06
that you don’t know how much damage you’re doing to your body with that stuff.

Ryan Smith 2:10
Okay. Speaking of damage to his body, we’ve got coleccion Casey Oh.

Unknown Speaker 2:19
Like I’m just bad bill. How

Ryan Smith 2:25
are you today, sir?

Unknown Speaker 2:27
Well, I was good.

John Keyes 2:30
I feel like I should fight you

Ryan Smith 2:33
know, I don’t want any of that.

Unknown Speaker 2:37
Wow, okay.

Ryan Smith 2:41
All right. And in the end the man that Casey should be fighting George g money stalwart?

George Stallworth 2:49
Why you gotta start stuff right? Yeah.

John Keyes 2:54
Yeah, why are you edging Ryan is Hey, listen,

George Stallworth 2:57
II know I’m already tonight. Like I’m literally about to post some stuff, inviting people to come to the gym to fight. Between Casey and I

John Keyes 3:06
don’t do that. George. Come on. Man.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 3:12
Back to that gym.

Unknown Speaker 3:14
Oh, yeah.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 3:20
Excuse me on first topic. Let’s start headlines.

Ryan Smith 3:24
No headlines tonight. This is the headline.

George Stallworth 3:27
It started between you and Ryan. Oh, I thought you meant you coming back train there. So you get ready for a fight with Ryan?

Kelechi Onyebuchi 3:35
No, the like, for this next gym session. I have to start training in advance. I can get my six pack back.

Ryan Smith 3:45
Yeah. Well, you know, the reason why I’m trying to start some stuff with you guys, because I’m trying to be like my new hero and that is the middleweight champion of the world in the UFC that is Israel out of Sanya. The man who is the greatest troller of all times we’ll be talking about him. In this segment we like to call the official decision.

This is the official decision. This is what we look at the fights that were on Saturday night. It was UFC 253 out of Sanya vs custa. Saturday, September 26 2020. From the flash forum on fight Island in Abu Dhabi. There were five fights on the card. Hakeem diwata defeated the vyra tuca Golf via unanimous decision to the golf came in five pounds overweight. Unacceptable.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 4:52
Isn’t that where you say there’s an advantage like Don’t we have some rule on our show that the person who weighs more wins

Ryan Smith 4:59
you You know, typically, but you know it’s not absolute. And so, you know, what we have found is that something around 80% of the time when a fighter comes in overweight, they typically win the fight. In this case, the buyer to golf came in five pounds overweight, looked great in the first first round, but perhaps the weight cut was too tough. And it zapped him for the second and he was running away for the third round, being chased by Hakeem duardo. And the water had no nice words for him yelling, urging him on to to stop running and engage the fight.

John Keyes 5:40
Yeah, as he should.

Ryan Smith 5:45
In the next fight, Catlin Vieira defeated the Jara Eubanks via unanimous decision. This was a great fight. It was a great solid fight. Um, the thing that we were talking about George is the fact that Samira Jara Eubanks seems like she might be too small for the bantamweight division.

George Stallworth 6:04
Yeah, you you you mentioned that quite a few times that maybe she she’d be better at 125 i don’t know i i had my faith in her that she will pull that fight out, man. And unfortunately, she didn’t. So yeah, maybe 125 is the better weight class for but I still think there are some things she can do at 135 and honestly, I think she should probably just float between the two. You know?

John Keyes 6:29
Okay, I’ll just gonna say that. It was the cornrows that got it this time cuz her comb Ron gave her cornrow game was tight. All right. And I was like, I was impressed. It was like, sugar Sean. Oh, my Malli tight. Alright, and I was like, Wow, so I knew that was gonna eat don’t mess with a person with tight cornrows. That’s all I’m saying.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 6:51
That strange rule, but I’m here for it.

Ryan Smith 6:54
That’s rule number five.

John Keyes 6:58
Just say a tight cornrow game. Leave them alone. I’m telling you. It’s just like, whoever comes in with the softest entrance music. Leave them alone.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 7:08
Okay. Oh, we should win every fight ever.

John Keyes 7:11
I’m just saying man. Oh, yeah,

George Stallworth 7:12
can’t lady walk into like some slow 70s dance off cool a rock.

John Keyes 7:18
Am rock man. Okay, you gotta leave her alone.

Ryan Smith 7:21
I’m telling you. That is the thing with with man. He is now in the

Unknown Speaker 7:28
darkness. combat sports talk after dark.

Ryan Smith 7:33
Yeah, collect glitches in the witness protection program. We need to change up his voice got light, bright lighting problems. That is something that I noticed with a lot of the Brazilian fighters that was they walk in with, you know, what I’m assuming is just the type of music you would hear in Brazil, that that’s popular in Brazil. But it doesn’t seem super intense. Like what we get here for fighters coming through, you know, in the United States with maybe some rap or some rock or things like that. It just seems like top 40

John Keyes 8:07
like height music. Yeah, it’s not something to get you height. Yes. It’s something to see. It’s reverse psychology though. Okay. They trying to get in there man. Like, what kind of crazy person and I’ve got to deal with this coming in on Celine Dion. But it’s not.

Ryan Smith 8:24
It’s not Celine Dion. It’s in Portuguese so you can understand what they’re saying. Anyway,

John Keyes 8:30
I’m just I’m just saying okay, if you’re coming in, awesome, soft Mariah Carey music. I’m leaving you alone, man. I’m like, you know what? This dude is not here. Okay. He is literally checked out. And I got crazy person in the ring with me. You know, and all they need to do is just like, it’s just like when they come in the ring. The popping the Alka Seltzer having foaming at the mouth by Bruce buffer is introducing Oh, that’d be some dope stuff right there.

Ryan Smith 8:59
Little Giants.

Unknown Speaker 9:01
That’s supposed to be a real pain.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 9:04
Next, he’s gonna say you know what the Cowboys should do? They should run. Puerto Rico.

John Keyes 9:07
Ah.

Ryan Smith 9:14
All right. Chi Cara France. face off against Brandon Roybal and Brandon Roybal defeated Chi Kira, France via Jia tiene submission.

John Keyes 9:28
A I’m sorry, what’s a gloominess chip. what’s what’s rivals?

Ryan Smith 9:35
affiliation?

John Keyes 9:37
No, I’m talking about is roadog. Is it Rob?

Kelechi Onyebuchi 9:44
He’s got an interesting story on how he got that name right before a fight.

Ryan Smith 9:50
So whenever we’re gonna get him on the show to find out that story.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 9:56
Coach, When are you planning on speaking I don’t even remember his management company.

Unknown Speaker 10:03
Oh, man.

Ryan Smith 10:07
Oh, go ahead. Good.

George Stallworth 10:08
That was good. sassy. We reach out to him right quick.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 10:12
Written Roybal, this is your official invitation to join us here on combat sports stop. All right,

Ryan Smith 10:19
well, you know, but you you actually did go out and get to meet with him and you went out into the, to a trip or whatever, and got to sit and talk to him for a little while. So what was that, like?

Kelechi Onyebuchi 10:31
Brandon Roybal is one of these guys who. So I’ve trained with him at the gym a few times over the last year, year and a half. And I will say that dude’s work ethic is just amazing. But like he goes, and he goes, and he goes, he’s putting in his two day three day practices. But the fact that he comes in and talks to guys who aren’t on the roster, like that’s the thing, it’s like, he’s always been that dude, I knew him before the contract. And he was just, he was there to work. Like he knew that if he put together good wins that good things would happen. And you know, there was as he was trying to figure out what weight class to come in, like, he’s just like, he’s the kind of guy that you want as a teammate, no matter what sport you’re playing, because he’s doing the little things along the way. But he doesn’t forget the people who are supporting him like he, he is as much a coach and supporter to others as he is receiving from his his camp. So you just can’t ask for a better guy who, even in the way that he wins, and he celebrates it feels more of a collective thing, like his whole team is winning when he wins and it’s not just Hey, I’m Brandon. Dude, it’s it that he brings along everyone that’s around him and even so I ran into him after not seeing him for like six months and we were out at the Chatfield reservoir just stand up paddleboarding. And this is a guy sees me from like, 100 yards away. It’s like, Hey, what’s going on glitchy? Like, you just don’t see professional fighters doing stuff like that remembering a guy who hasn’t been in the gym for six months and still like, hey, come come over here we got another group of fighters Let’s all hang out. So I will never have anything bad to say because I’ve seen that guy running outside in the snow getting that cardio in and at the same time just being an absolute dog in the octagon and then the nicest guy you’ve ever met out and about

Unknown Speaker 12:25
ra

Ryan Smith 12:26
Well, I will never say anything bad about him because the way he came back from getting rocked in the first round and then landed a spinning elbow as he’s getting rocked again and still found a way to pull this fight out and win by a good team that was so tight. That paraphrase didn’t really know what was going on. He basically was just like, Okay, I’m gonna tap I’m out. And that was a shocker because Kira friends came in as a significant favorite. You know, and he’s part of that kick that city kickboxing crew down in New Zealand. They were looking to have a big night and and that star that that that that put a damper on the problem.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 13:09
Factory

George Stallworth 13:10
exit did he tap our referee stopped the fight. I know

Ryan Smith 13:14
he tapped, he ended up happening. So we got viewers coming in saying that rod dog takes chances. He absolutely does. It was pretty funny though. Between between rounds. His coach was like, you need to start running into that right hand. And he’s like, Yeah, I got you. I got you. So so that was a Brandon Roybal second fight in the UFC. Both of those fights have been spectacular finishes. He’s got he is definitely on the on the way up. I said that I would do this. And so I will. We’re gonna blow the we’re gonna build the hype train horn for him.

John Keyes 14:07
Any decision I make has to be done in three. If it’s a big decision I take I take three days to actually think about that decision before I make it so I got to see him in another fight. Let me see him in another fight. Let’s see how he does and that if he split these are spectacular as well these past two we’re gonna jump on the hype train.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 14:29
We’re not going to count his wins all over LFA where he was taking fights on two days notice and just murdering folks.

John Keyes 14:36
We’ll see I have to go back and watch those and then I’ll be and then if and you know, then I’ll jump on that I didn’t I didn’t see any the lF LFA fight and remember LFA is not UFC bellator is not UFC one FC is not UFC, love, or hate UFC at this point. Love them or hate them. The UFC changes people, okay either makes them better or to make them worse. It literally is a proving ground now.

Ryan Smith 15:10
All right. Well, speaking of proving grounds, we had two light heavyweights vying for a vacated title. Dominic Chris versus yawn blazkowicz blazkowicz defeated, Dominic ray is in the second round via TKO. Like he said he would

Unknown Speaker 15:29
like another love TKO.

Unknown Speaker 15:33
Yeah,

Ryan Smith 15:34
so So, you know, we all we were all thinking, Okay. Well, Dominic Ray has had such a great limit. I’m not speak for you guys. I was thinking dominant race looks so great. Against john Jones. Arguably, people felt like he beat john Jones, that yon blazkowicz, who really climbed up that ladder, not a lot of spectacular competition. You know, the biggest name he fought was was Luke Rocco. And so it was really tough to say, yes, yon blockholder, Chad had had a great opportunity to win this belt. But if you watched him on, on on the, you know, on the behind the scenes videos and things like that, listen to him in the, you know, in the inner interviews, he was always confident, he was always focused, and he was that type of type of champion. He was almost like a light heavyweight Steve a meal chick.

John Keyes 16:28
And maybe that’s what it is, is that he that up to that point? We didn’t see his full potential until he actually got in that ring with Dominic Reyes. And he unleashed the beast and was and was, you know, I didn’t know he had that good of hands. Okay, and did what he did. You know, because this, I mean, from all from all reports, everybody was saying that this was Dominic raises, crown, you know, coronation. And apparently, you know, john didn’t get the didn’t get the memo. So, and I’m happy. It was a great, it was a great fight. I’d love to see it again. And just see if how it goes the second time. But the point that was really, that was really telling was the fact that john Jones had words about that. You know, it was like, I cannot say he didn’t say much about john blazkowicz. But he had a lot to say about Dominick Reyes. And it just kind of makes me think that did he run from Dominick Reyes, bra? bra brah. I mean, seriously, because if you’re if you’re upset with somebody, if you if you’re as cocky as john Jones don’t care what anybody think you wouldn’t have responded like that. You don’t respond with venom. He responded with the utmost respect with john, but yawn bloco Vich. But when it came to Dominick Reyes, he had number vitriol and I believe any other like,

George Stallworth 18:10
gentlemen, you see me over here my cup up because here we are talking about john Jones, who’s not even in the light heavyweight division at the current moment.

John Keyes 18:17
Oh, but we got to talk about that to people all right. So

Ryan Smith 18:23
news got to talk about it. I mean, oh,

George Stallworth 18:25
light heavyweight champ who people are hating on and already given problems? Like this man, his belt ain’t even 24 hours. Oh, yet already? I’m not saying you. I’m just saying people that you know, there are a lot of people that feel like he doesn’t deserve it. That is his victory. That Dominic was damaged from the john Jones fight. I’m telling you what people are saying just test the waters go out there and talk to him. People are saying when there was a damage Dominic ray is after the john Jones fight.

John Keyes 18:57
Hey, I’m sorry you he’d walked in that ring 108 he walked in every he may wait. When you walk in that ring. You say you are 100%

Kelechi Onyebuchi 19:08
said that

George Stallworth 19:10
john blacker which Am I pronouncing his name? I like kovitch blank blank. Michael black which locked on

John Keyes 19:18
john block. Yeah,

George Stallworth 19:20
yeah, yeah. This guy’s actually been in the UFC since like 2014 Mm hmm. Quiet is kept you get what I’m saying. So he is not some new company. He’s not some up in New comm or anything like this. This guy has been here putting into work. He’s got a couple of losses. He’s lost a Tiago Santos a couple of other folks. But he’s got some he’s got a couple of hands under his belt as well. Lear latifi if I’m not mistaken. Yeah, he’s got a few others on down the line as well. I think he’s fought Alexander Gustafsson. I think he lost him maybe I’m not sure. For Jimmy man or twice. He’s got a win over Jared cannoneer. Yeah, so this guy is is not you know, He’s not a paper champion by no means no. And I think now with that built around him, he’s only gonna get better because when you put, you know, pressure to a call, it turns into a diamond.

Unknown Speaker 20:11
Sam brand like,

Ryan Smith 20:12
well, and the thing the thing about Jamba kovatch is that he also like I said before, he has a great camp around him and they the whole time under all of this pressure with all the you know, the kind of the, the little slights and things that they were giving, giving him he took that all in stride, came out there and said, it’s gonna go two rounds, and then it’s going to be over. And when you look at Dominic rez, after that fight, Dominic rez his nose is visiting his ear, and he’s got beat he’s holding he’s he’s holding ground beef under his arm because his ribs are all torn up. Like it, you know, it was it was it was damaged in a hurry with yawn blazkowicz and I’m excited to see what he can do next. So, you know, Dana White has already said that, you know, Glover to share and Tiago Santos are fighting very soon. The winner of that fight? Well, if Tiago Santos wins that fight, then he will be the next fighter to face yon blazkowicz in black over just first title defense. So you’re going to get to see them run that back. yon blazkowicz versus Thiago Santos if Santos can get past Glover to share but the great thing about blazkowicz is that he ain’t gonna run from anybody. He’s gonna take all comers because he was like, I’ll take glimmer to share to share a wins. He’ll he’ll he wants to fight whoever.

John Keyes 21:36
And that’s how championship be and just a just a side note. In the last nine fights. He only lost one and he only lost it to Tiago Santos.

Ryan Smith 21:48
So, so yeah, I’m very impressed by him. I mean, he’s like, he’s like, he go ahead.

George Stallworth 21:55
I was gonna say Another interesting fact since we were just talking to the fat jack over there is that both of the guys that he’s had rematches with, he lost the first one is second, Corey Anderson. And it was one other one he lost to Jimmy Manawatu

John Keyes 22:14
so he lost the first one to the to both of them came back and beat them in a second. And it’s interesting that those two fights were back to back those two losses were back to back to Koreans and Jimmy man one. And then he came back and adjusted his game like a true champion should and beat them that you can’t ask for much more out of it. Well talk to my hat’s off to jet to john, for doing it for pulling it out. Even though I have my boy Dominic ray is winning that. But man some days you just don’t get it.

George Stallworth 22:44
You feel like I told you guys, we’re gonna win this. Oh.

Ryan Smith 22:49
Well, we I may have

Unknown Speaker 22:50
to get the recap on that. I think

John Keyes 22:55
that crow button broken. I think that Chrome buttons broken this tonight, I think. Yeah, yeah,

Ryan Smith 23:00
the crow button. Maybe we’re maybe broken. We may have to play that next week. I actually want to let the record show that that that coach called john block over in the spikers. I don’t remember him calling young black over that.

George Stallworth 23:17
It was a point of contention with us on the last show. But I’ll go back and I’ll rewatch the show and see if I can find the clip for you guys.

John Keyes 23:27
Thanks, coach.

Ryan Smith 23:31
All right. Well, that brings us to the main event of the evening, Israel out of Sanya vs. Paulo Costa Israel out of Sanya defeated Paul Acosta via TKO in round number two, it it really wasn’t close everything that Paul Acosta through either missed or was checked or was caught. Nothing. There was not a moment in time. Where is your auto Sonia looked like he was in danger. And he he looked like the champion that we always said he was I mean, he said it was going to be easy work. And it really looked like it was easy work for him.

John Keyes 24:10
Anybody that sat there and said that Israel was washed up because of the yo Romero fight or if they said that he wasn’t good enough or anything like that, please eat one eat a fat one. Eat a bad eat a fat sloppy one. As a matter of fact, because Wow, he Yeah, yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. You know, all I can say is that that night, he absolutely dismantle any type of plan that Paulo Costa, or his corner, or his well at home, had waiting for him for for Israel. He broke him. He broke him down. He mocked him. And then he beat him.

Ryan Smith 24:53
What he sure did, what do you what do you what do you think about George

George Stallworth 25:00
So what happened was, I feel like

Unknown Speaker 25:10
I’m really interested in this too. Okay.

Ryan Smith 25:13
All right. I was getting ripped out laughs I was glitchy Collette. She told us some information about what he didn’t do on Saturday night. And I was getting ready to throw it to him. And then I realized that would not be beneficial to the conversation sounds like

George Stallworth 25:31
you’re like, thank you.

John Keyes 25:36
So I’m kind of curious now.

Ryan Smith 25:38
Okay. But for the fans, for the for the fans who are listening, Collette you didn’t watch the fights on Saturday night. So I’m getting ready to say so what do you think about the fight? cholesky. And I’m like what you did with the fight? George?

George Stallworth 25:51
So anyway, back to it. On is not really because he outdid you. But what happened was, I feel like Costa didn’t didn’t follow the game plan that he should have won. He did have some success when he pushed his is he up against the cage. Right. That’s where he would have had continued success to I think he shouldn’t want him test tested his his ground game. He didn’t, I think is he already had to account for that. I think the game plan really well for Acosta. The minute, the minute, I think Acosta would have tried to take Easy there, you would have seen the knees come into play. We talked about that all on our chat line, you know, what was it kneecap sandwiches and things like that? A Mac? So yeah, I think there were several opportunities that Paul didn’t take advantage of. And now in retrospect, like I said, I’ve heard at least two interview clips where he’s made mention of Hey, guys, not to make an excuse. But you know, there was some things that happened. And probably it was probably related to the way cut. I don’t know we talked about that part as well already. Where I think Casey says, Hey, Paula didn’t look as big as easy. I don’t necessarily agree with that. But I can I you know, I can recognize that some people are seeing that and so there are some factors at play here that we probably don’t know about. But all in all, I think that was a clinic put on by Izzy and I can’t wait to see the next one man is Israel out of Sanya has really made his mark in the UFC. And I’m really excited to see where he goes next with this and and there’s only even better matches this. There’s all these better matchups out there for him now, Jared cannoneer is the next one in line. And I think that’s gonna be a real test. fese

John Keyes 27:37
Yeah, I do believe that when it comes to pawlikowski I mean, he literally took his leg he was taking his leg leg out from under him. If he if you saw him in the kicks were devastating. I mean, he made his leg bleed from the kicks. And I’m like, okay, that’s the end of your leg. You’ve got no tackle power you have not no striking power Really? If you’re going to try if you’re going to try and then guess Israel secondly Let’s not talk about injuries because something was going on with with Israel’s right pec. I couldn’t understand. I mean, it looked like it was torn. And, you know, it looked like it was torn because I mean, you know, if you look if you take your shirt off, and I’ll suggest anybody on this fight last night, okay, this is not only fans, okay, we’ll do that later. I’m only fans but I’m sure you don’t want to shut up positive. Okay. I have a really, yes. I’m kind of curious now.

George Stallworth 28:41
I could honestly say I can see why his chest might look like that from a torn pec. Yeah, still his was more nipple droop than likes per se my but there is a pretty pronounced deformity right here on the side of my pic as a result of it being torn. And it kind of does look like a little drop and if you notice, both both of his Not that I was looking at his titties but both of his breasts were not

John Keyes 29:04
you know, saying Can we say that? Can we have

Ryan Smith 29:07
now we have no.

John Keyes 29:09
Okay.

George Stallworth 29:10
He’s not a curse word.

Ryan Smith 29:12
It’s good. It’s good. Keep going back.

George Stallworth 29:15
All right, anyway, back to it. So both of his breasts did not look the same. Typically, and and you guys who have gyno, you see both breasts drooping. That’s not what you saw it is that you saw one breast out of shape compared to the other. So I’m not I’m not convinced that this was Pete as a as a result of PD use.

John Keyes 29:35
Oh, yeah, got a one.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 29:37
What this means for Paulo Costa, because far too often once one fighter figures out your game plan unless you can adjust. You’re in the you’re in the rubbish bin. So I’ve got to wonder, I think is he has been saying it from the start from the moment that he said he’s got to fight this over inflated balloon. Like the key to beating Paulo was to just not be a punching bag. Standing in front of them. And taking out that lead leg does exactly that. And, and we know that there’s a lot more agile and mobile fighters who aren’t going to be standing in banking as the the division continues to evolve and change. And is he leading the way? So are we Is this the start of the Polo decline? Or do you think that he’s got the skill set to adjust?

John Keyes 30:23
He’s got the skill set to adjust. I think what it what it was, in my opinion, is that he got hit a couple of times, and he was because he was fine. The first couple of times he got hit, but then he got hit so hard in the in the jaw, that you saw that poker face get real poker ish. Like he, like he went, he went zombie and I’m like, okay, you just got hit. And you’re not, you’re not making any more jokes about that, that tells me one day, you’re now going to respect his power. And that’s what it was. He got, I won’t say scared. But he got a healthy dose of respect out of his power. And I think he didn’t want any more of that.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 31:06
I have to wonder, though, like, people talk about the precision striking. Is he versus the power striking of Paolo, but I think the UFC showed in the lead up to it that actually is he has more knockouts than Paulo, and hollow actually was the more and more significant strikes. So is it just as this misnomer that Paolo is this huge power puncher because we’ve seen people being able to absorb those chin shots from him? And so what does he have to do to become a different fighter? Because it can’t be all strength now, people, people know how to avoid that.

Ryan Smith 31:46
Well, I think what George was saying, right is George was saying, Paul Acosta is a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. When was the last time you saw him grapple deer just due to head hunts. He comes forward head hunts and tries to knock you out. Very rarely do you see him trying to submit someone? I mean, it’s it’s it’s it’s the Roy Nelson.

Unknown Speaker 32:06
Oh, look at that.

Ryan Smith 32:08
Yeah. Yeah, it’s the Roy Nelson strategy. It’s so much easier and better on your gas tank, if you could just knock them out in the first round. Sitting there getting on the ground and grappling with somebody takes a lot of gas and it doesn’t seem like Holocaust is someone who wants to invest in that. Because it

George Stallworth 32:24
doesn’t really have a gas tank either. When you carry around that much muscle, you’re not gonna have a gas tank.

John Keyes 32:32
Well then explain Hickson Gracie. Okay, I know. I just want to hear well, that

Kelechi Onyebuchi 32:39
lesson in the curse, we’re gonna say.

John Keyes 32:45
See, explain that explain Hickson Gracie. Gracie was a he was a rip warrior. And he would beat the crap out of these guys for for a good while and then he would choke them out easy. So what’s that? He’s an exception. You know,

Ryan Smith 33:03
that’s the thing. There’s no, just because there’s one guy who carries around a lot of muscle and can it has a gas tank doesn’t mean that everybody who carries around a lot of muscle has gas tanks. We know for a fact we’ve seen enough fights now to know that all of these guys that walk in with all of this muscle, the moment those muscles start filling with blood, they get heavy, these fighters slow down, their gas tanks go out if you’ve got one guy who can do that. Great. But the fact that

George Stallworth 33:32
I challenge you to go back and look at Hickson fights and really observed whether or not he was having to use his gas tank or not. He kind of said it a second ago you’d like he would beat these guys up and then choke them out. So what you’re saying was he wasn’t grappling for the most part. He was striking and then went to grappling.

John Keyes 33:50
Now what you’re absolutely right, because nobody really wanted to get on the ground with Hickson because they knew what that was going to entail. All right. And on top of that Hickson was that rares that rare specimen that was you know, that was that can knock you out. And this is talking about in the early days of MMA that he would not he could knock you out. And he could submit to you with just as much ease as want to see other and that and that was a scary combination. But I mean, talking about the whole the whole muscular, muscular body versus the fit body. I can you’re I mean I saved I brought up the devil’s advocate, but then I’m in the back of my mind. I’m thinking mark the hammer Coleman. Kevin randleman um, you know, oh God, Brock Lesnar, even to a degree. Let’s see here. Paul vorlons, dan Severn, these guys we’re big, muscular wrestling guys. That could not make it couldn’t make it to a second or third round if they if they could mark him. Mark Coleman being the mark the hammer Cole. Me being the quintessential guy? Well, after the second round he was

Ryan Smith 35:04
dead. Well his his fight against Brock Lesnar was was was a classic case of that. He beat Brock Lesnar in the first round from pillar to post and Brock Lesnar ended up choking him out in the second round. Both of them were laying out on the ground gassed out, because they neither one of them had the gas tank to make it to the third round had they had they both made the third round, it might have been a double knockout, and we would have vacated the title. But I don’t want to just talk about I just don’t want to talk about what happened in the ring. Because what makes Israel out of Sanya so interesting, is all of the other stuff that surrounds him and how well he handles the trash talk and how well he handles the mic, and the interviews and the fans and all of that stuff as well.

John Keyes 35:46
Well, how many fights is this man has? He has like 175 total combat fights. And I think when he posted up he had 100 combat wins.

George Stallworth 35:57
Like a judge just doubled in number boy. Yeah, he’s got 100 and 700 fights. He’s got like 75 kickboxing fights. He’s like 75 and five and kickboxing. He’s like 19 and oh, in MMA and he’s got like five boxing matches. Last in box, his his official READ

Ryan Smith 36:15
WRITE 100 fights combat combat, his combat record is 100 wins, seven losses.

John Keyes 36:22
Okay, so yeah, 107 fights total, well, bad. But still 100 fights. This man has been there done. That,

Kelechi Onyebuchi 36:31
to me, is his promo style, right. So his first couple of fights in the UFC, he didn’t get these big signature wins. Like, he definitely beat his opponent down, but didn’t knock him out. Until he kind of does this. I’ll do better. I promise guys, there’s more I want to show you. So he was really humble at the start of how he talked in the octagon and the post fight interview. But it really changed as he stepped up his social media game, which is strange how some people are saying that, oh, he should take some lessons from chael sonnen. But I think that what he does is wholly different from shale, in that he backs it up first. And then he gets very specific about like, Look, I told you this, and I executed and then he’s not really talking trash about the next opponent. He’s just focused on Look, I’m living my my life and you guys are hating on it. Like, I’m out here just dancing and whatnot, you guys. You’re following me? So are you really haters, so that’s what I like about is he it’s like, he’s not following a rulebook. He’s creating a rulebook saying like, this is who I am authentically, and I’m not gonna let the UFC shape how I interact with the fans.

Ryan Smith 37:40
I like the fact that he that his interests are more broad. I mean, he talks about, you know, how much he loves anime and things like that. But then the dude posts on on Instagram or whatever, him having his hair dyed pink. Yeah. Like what name of fighter who, who dies his hair pink and it comes into the ring and you know, like, like, some of them. Some of these fighters do it like that

Kelechi Onyebuchi 38:10
guy. The dude who beat Kimbo Slice, a

John Keyes 38:14
Seth Petrus le.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 38:16
There was one other guy who got pink hair for a bit

Unknown Speaker 38:19
closer to

George Stallworth 38:22
Sean O’Malley.

Ryan Smith 38:23
Okay, Sean O’Malley is another one. But but but and Chris lieben of course had the famous I don’t know what he’s not like Dennis Rodman kind of hair. But you know, but the thing is, is it was an interesting thing, because I was telling George was like, you know, I wish that that Israel out of Sanya would have worn the pink hair into the ring and fought with pink hair. And they asked him about that in the post fight press conference or in the post fight interview. And he said that my dad he called who he called, that is Sonia. told him that you’re gonna, you’re gonna, you’re gonna throw the jab, you’re gonna blind Paul Acosta, he’s not gonna be able to see. And if you’ve got pink hair, he’ll be able to focus on that pink blob, and he’ll still be able to see you. So change it, change your hair color, go back to black, and he won’t be able to see you whenever you’re doing damage to his vision. And he’s like, this is a great idea. You know, I love

Unknown Speaker 39:20
that story to the elders.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 39:25
Not a word, not for the wise.

Unknown Speaker 39:30
Now,

Ryan Smith 39:31
the other thing that we haven’t talked about yet, is what happened after he threw the left hook dropped. Paul Acosta went in for the went in for the finish. Israel out of Sanya made a lewd gesture on the downed body of Paula Paul Acosta, which the whole world saw and it played on replay and Paul Acosta has now seen it. And he does. He does not feel like that was inappropriate. gesture for the for the moment in the fight. I like me talking around that one.

John Keyes 40:07
Now it’s pretty well played sir your foot your verbal footwork was dynamic sir

George Stallworth 40:14
never ceases to amaze me how fighters who talk all this mech before a fight and then they take that book whooping almost said the other word, but I didn’t want Ryan to have to work all night. They take that book and then when somebody talks a little smack back to them after that book, whooping, now they got a problem with the way you know, things were done. Now all of a sudden he’s calling is he human trash and things like that? What was that talk when you were calling them a monkey was talking you know what I’m saying? Like don’t don’t don’t try to be holier than thou now like is he did something wrong? No, you’ve been disrespectful to this man ever since this fights been announced. And now all of a sudden you want him to be humble and honorable in his win and his victory Oh, I don’t know man I take offense to that like you can’t you can’t you know treat me like trash and then expect me to be nice to you after I give you that that Humble Pie

John Keyes 41:09
now you know what i’m not i’m not even upset with a guy that lost okay you mad you got you got dealt with on a personal basis and you mad cuz you how you got dealt with you got a you talked it you talked it up take your take your l like everybody else and take your l extra salty with the hint the limit alright because you did it You did this to yourself if you came to him humble if you came to him respectful he would have came to you respectful no you chose to try to play to get in his head and instead is he owes you rent money for sitting in your head I mean is are you paying is he paying with US dollars or is he paying with the Brazilian re out that’s what I want to know. Yeah.

Ryan Smith 41:55
Well I want to I want to I want to wrap this part up there’s two more things I want to talk about with Izzy before we go. One of them it came in the in the post fight interview as well. He says I dedicate this fight to anyone be it at school or at home or even at work. If your boss is grinding you I dedicate this fight to you guys because you have to fight back You can’t just take it all the time. You have to bite back and I really thought that was inspiration you know coming coming from the from the champ and just saying that you know sometimes you can take it sometimes you can turn the other cheek but sometimes you just run out of cheap

John Keyes 42:30
well even Buddha said you know every now and then you got put a little foot but so

Ryan Smith 42:42
I think that there’s a there’s a famous There’s a famous Nigerian rapper who may be able to sum this up for us. What would you say?

Kelechi Onyebuchi 42:50
In the words of the chitkul Oh, I messed that up my bad y’all

words of Toby

anyway, try Jesus. Not me. Because what’s funny though, it’s like Toby actually is like really cool with out of Sanya and Huisman, the other two Nigerian champions. So like, just seeing that kinship that kind of happens there as they that that their shared experiences kind of come out. Like I’m a fan of the music that could happen. Like Could you imagine having Toby do the walkout music for Sanya?

Ryan Smith 43:43
Oh my gosh. Well, you know, I just I don’t feel like we should be trying to mix. Um, rappers and MMA fighters.

John Keyes 43:53
Hold on down.

Unknown Speaker 43:58
Ain’t nobody stop.

John Keyes 44:06
Okay. You can have a rapper, do your do your walkout you as a fighter cannot do the walk out. Okay. You cannot do your own walkout music. You just can’t do that. outsource

George Stallworth 44:23
as Roy Jones about that.

John Keyes 44:25
outsource Roy Jones. We heard your stuff too.

Unknown Speaker 44:28
That was hidden.

Unknown Speaker 44:30
Baby.

George Stallworth 44:31
I got my plan. Right now.

John Keyes 44:37
I’m just saying. Kimbo Slice. A Kimbo Slice was smart enough to outsource let’s just say like that.

Ryan Smith 44:44
So the last thing I wanna talk about with with Israel out of Sanya is what happened in the ring immediately after he won the fight. He goes over to Dana White and he’s in Dana White’s face and he is you know, not yelling but but speaking very firmly to Dana White. They asked him in the post fight press conference what he was talking to Dana White about and it was really about fighters missing ways the buyer to kick off of course we talked about but also one of his teammates from city kickboxing had to fight a fighter who didn’t make weight and that fighter well he specifically called out to the barrel to the golf in that once took a golf Miss weight by five pounds, which is egregious for professional fighters. Right? He route he just said you know what, take 30% of my purse, and he started hydrating rather than using the 90 minutes to make the weight and so what what what Israel out of Sanya said is 30% of the purse is not enough to turn for fighters to miss weight. He says it needs to be 80 to 90% in order for fighters to take weight cutting seriously because if you ended up doing all that training for nothing and then you got to go out and take that but weapon you’re gonna get serious about about making your weight every time you show up. Agreed?

John Keyes 46:01
Yeah, take it take I say start at if they missed their weight by between one to three pounds. Go ahead and take half their pay after that. Yeah, give me 80 80%

Unknown Speaker 46:16
what do you do?

George Stallworth 46:20
Yeah 8188 I’m sorry Casey, go here, man.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 46:30
Well, I think there’s already that rule right there’s within a certain threshold you can’t truly fight for the title like you can win but you can’t fight for the title. What if we just take away the fact that you can win like it’s just a no contest?

George Stallworth 46:47
But then you’re hurting the other fighter?

Kelechi Onyebuchi 46:50
Yeah, fighter pay comes in? Well, if there were contracts with guaranteed money,

John Keyes 46:55
see, I mean, I mean, let’s talk about this this this cut in the pit the pay cuz I mean, they should institute that for a lot of rules because in pride, the one of the beautiful things I loved about pride other than the stumps and the soccer kicks and 12, six elbows and all that beautiful stuff that made it so gloriously violent. yellow cards, red cards, yellow cards, took was a was 10% red cards were 25% and those were fouls. You get two red cards. And that’s a disqualification. Now when I say fouls that include growing kicks, pokes in the eyes and everything like that. And guess how many eye pokes there really were in pride? very easily. Yeah, pretty interesting. And on top of that, the pride gloves were specifically designed to keep your hands curled in they weren’t like the UFC gloves that are still like, not as curled they actually curled the mat. That’s one of the things that when UFC bought pride they should have kept they should have kept those gloves grappling is they still grapple? Oh, pride was grapple heavy, come on now. Okay, they love their craft, they actually appreciated the grappling and pride more so than they did in the UFC. So they it was it was designed to grapple to, but it was the point that they cut, they curled it enough where you wouldn’t be trying to, you know, do a three stooges maneuver there.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 48:24
I’m here for it, then.

John Keyes 48:26
Yeah, so reinstitute the card, start start chopping up some pay. And give me that 80% when you when you go when you go five, five pounds over.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 48:37
But the problem is that while that was a very good conversation to have, it’s it or Israel having this post fight. It’s not gonna go anywhere, like the fighters really

John Keyes 48:47
our that’s because it’s our mission to hold it. It’s not because Dana White immediately shuffled that, you know, he punted that over to the commission. Like, I have nothing to do with that. That’s the commission talking.

George Stallworth 49:00
The good thing about it was is he put the conversation out in the fans world.

Unknown Speaker 49:05
Yes.

George Stallworth 49:06
And that’s why I think he went at it. The moment he did that he took the opportunity to voice it right then.

John Keyes 49:14
And now here we are on Monday night talking about discussing about it. Yeah,

Kelechi Onyebuchi 49:18
yeah. If only they had a fighters union or something.

John Keyes 49:21
We are and there it is. Do we drink on fighters union?

Ryan Smith 49:25
Do we drink our fighters union? Hey, by the way, um, I just one let you guys know that the button is working. Oh.

George Stallworth 49:37
Is that crow posture posthumously for? Yeah.

Ryan Smith 49:43
Yeah. So yes. So um,

George Stallworth 49:46
yeah, go back and now.

Ryan Smith 49:49
So, I just went back and listen to Episode 140 or 141. And I listened to George g money. Pick, everybody. For him was on dominant race. He said he was going to go with the Hanged Man. Because remember we talked about young black hovick carries a noose that had been previously used by a body or good luck. Dude rubbed his magic news and won this fight Dude, that is what

John Keyes 50:22
that was so close to you have to cut that whole segment off right there. But um, yeah, on The Blair Witch side of the game. Yeah, he did that and he actually got it so yeah,

Ryan Smith 50:32
he says it’s like 90% accurate. So, dude.

John Keyes 50:37
Who are we to fight with the supernatural now? You know?

Ryan Smith 50:41
Definitely not me.

George Stallworth 50:43
Being back on yonder. I have to say man, I was really impressed with his striking.

John Keyes 50:50
Formella grapple heavy he was he was striking hard. He looked like a

Unknown Speaker 50:55
kickboxer hmm

John Keyes 50:57
there is more evolution man I’m telling the evolution is real. Okay, these fighters these fighters are slowly evolving away from their their straight their strict disciplines and becoming more of an MMA fighter even the ones that start off with wrestling day What is going on here? What

George Stallworth 51:17
Kate Casey? A gender reference or no?

Kelechi Onyebuchi 51:24
doubt the What do you call the x men reference?

John Keyes 51:27
Oh, x.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 51:31
Up. I was thinking I was it was either x men or style bender. What do you call the avatar? Yeah.

Ryan Smith 51:40
Oh avatar, the

John Keyes 51:42
avatar.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 51:44
are leaving reality trails. I was just interested in see what all right.

Unknown Speaker 51:53
All right.

Ryan Smith 51:54
Okay, let’s go ahead and leave this segment and go into the finding the angles.

In finish, I didn’t want to finish the the recap of UFC 253 without talking about one person who has been fighting since 2005. And that is the nightmare. The dream. Lionheart. Diego Sanchez.

George Stallworth 52:32
15 years in a game strong.

Ryan Smith 52:35
And so this guy started off at the Ultimate Fighter one came and took on the you know, the best of the best throughout his career in the UFC has some of the greatest matchups clay guaita, being one of the ones that are in the UFC Hall of Fame, one of the greatest fights of all time. He fought on this card in the prelims against Jake Matthews and Jake Matthews really showed how big a difference these new fighters are coming up versus kind of that old guard, you know, we always herald the changing of the guard in the UFC. And this is one of those times where the old guard the last of the few in the crowd who are still fighting in the UFC are are starting to go are starting to you know, they’re starting to show their their age and their where Dana White says that he thinks he needs to have says that he needs to think about Diego Sanchez future after UFC 253. He also mentioned Coby cowboy Sironi in in his statements as well. These are two fighters that have been in the UFC for a very long time fighting lots and lots of fights, that they’re now they’re starting to get on the end of their careers, it’s time to start thinking about whether or not he needs to have that talk with them.

George Stallworth 53:55
Legends League of Legends League of Legends, legends, legends, legends league. Yeah. Honestly, I’d like to see Diego with some better match. I see no CTE involved. Don’t get me wrong. Don’t get me wrong. Do some real matchmaking with guys like this, you know, I’m saying quick to Austin, these guys out here to these young hungry wolves. Put together Let a legends League Division or whatever you want to call it, and let some of these guys who are you know, past their prime, but still able to train appropriately come to a fight uninjured and able to put in a little bit of work, let them come do it and find some ways to make it maybe a little bit safer for them.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 54:39
Do you think pride will get in the way of people actually doing that though?

Ryan Smith 54:43
It’s either that or do or stop fighting. Think about

George Stallworth 54:45
this is 2020 and we’re gonna go watch a mike tyson fight in two months. My game fought in 15 years. And I guarantee you every one of us will pay for that pay per view.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 54:56
Yep. I mean, I’m gonna go over to one of your Houses so watch it but yeah.

George Stallworth 55:04
I’m just saying there is a demand for these types of fights. It’s out there. Yeah. And people will pay.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 55:13
Ah, I just like Oh, for sure I would pay wait. Like I said, there’s some Woodley fights I still want to see. For sure. Watch that. Um, my problem though, is like guys, who now realize they’re in a separate legends league. Like, it takes a long time to actually realize that the game has passed you by?

John Keyes 55:33
I don’t, but I think I’m sorry, George. Go ahead. Go ahead. I’m sorry.

George Stallworth 55:38
I, all I could do is speak from experience, man. I know there are guys out there. You know, in my gym, even who could beat my tail. I don’t have that. That doubt. You’re saying I know where I met. No matter what. And I honestly believe that somebody thought we talk a good game. Oh, nobody’s ever gonna beat me. I’m walking through anybody that comes to me. But deep down, you know, where you really stand on a lot of things. there anybody who’s who’s training in the gym and has sparring sessions, you know, where you stand in your gym, you know, where you stand in life when it comes to that? Isn’t isn’t there’s no equivocation on that. You might feel good on certain days. But you know, whether or not you’re ready to stand up to the competition at its at its best.

Ryan Smith 56:24
Exactly. Yes. That’s why I all my smile

George Stallworth 56:27
on it. Go ahead. Right. I felt some coming. Yeah,

Ryan Smith 56:31
that’s it. That’s right. Cuz that’s why I talk all my smack to cholesky while his tail is still in Denver.

John Keyes 56:39
But seriously, though, I mean, and then on top of that, we got fighters there, that that would be there. I would qualify for the mass division that still have some bitter rivalries. You know, I know that they are, they will be down to fight those rivalries one more time. You think vandelay wouldn’t fight win fight rampage one more time? You think he would you think vandelay wouldn’t fight anybody one more time? I mean, he he crazy, but he gained.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 57:11
So can we talk about? Yeah, so I think you’re right. First. I wonder what happens with weight divisions and a masters and a Masters league because the weight cuts are still just brutal, and they don’t get easier as you get older. I think everyone’s

John Keyes 57:30
talking about

weight classes.

George Stallworth 57:40
He’s 185 pounds. Yeah.

John Keyes 57:44
Open Wade juice to the gills. Let them do what they do. Ladies and gentlemen,

George Stallworth 57:51
the views expressed by john the keys to victory are not shared on oil and or indoors by Ryan Smith. Casey Onyebuchi. Georgia. combat sport. Stop.

Ryan Smith 58:04
Thank you, sir.

Unknown Speaker 58:07
I don’t care. Y’all know I need that as a drop.

Ryan Smith 58:09
I’m gonna make that as a drought.

John Keyes 58:12
Y’all know that. Y’all want to see that? Okay. Y’all want to see I mean, Say what you will open wait. I’m not asking for one night tournaments anymore. Alright, because, you know, third fight three people in one night is brutal. All right, but we can at least do open wait. All right, we can at least do

Kelechi Onyebuchi 58:36
those, uh, those all in one night tournaments. Boom, still happening. local, regional events. And it’s amazing up here. Pretty soon next weekend. As a matter of fact,

John Keyes 58:47
what’s this

George Stallworth 58:49
fury kickboxing here in in Fort Worth, Dallas, Texas. It’s basically a tournament and from what I understand is quite a few people gonna be participating. So it looks like you know, most of these spiders are gonna get to at least two fights.

Unknown Speaker 59:03
I love that. Wow. I

Ryan Smith 59:06
like what I hear. So let’s go ahead and close the book on this one, put it on the shelf because this card is history and move into something that happened after the card in the post fight press conference with the President himself. Dana White. And, and the fact that he is currently beefing with Conor McGregor.

Unknown Speaker 59:29
Whoa.

Ryan Smith 59:32
The audience watch the post fight press conference they’re asking.

George Stallworth 59:34
I’m gonna tell you how. This is why I know I need to be in the legislature. Because I’ve misheard what you said. I thought you said President Trump was beefing with Conor McGregor.

Ryan Smith 59:54
Yeah, Dana White and Conor McGregor are currently beefing and this all came. This all stemmed from the announcement that happened this week as well, that Conor McGregor is going to be fighting Manny Pacquiao sometime in 2021 which is big news. That is huge news.

John Keyes 1:00:13
It is But come on, man. You’re gonna get beat by the

Ryan Smith 1:00:19
other you know really?

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:00:21
Wait, did we play the music yet? Which one music segment?

Ryan Smith 1:00:27
Yeah, we played it.

John Keyes 1:00:28
Yeah, he played

Unknown Speaker 1:00:30
um

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:00:32
but didn’t want to over run over on that segment I just I didn’t have my monitor in

Unknown Speaker 1:00:39
anyway

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:00:42
I just feel like this is another money run that we we know that Connor is not a legit boxer. So why are we throwing more money his way?

George Stallworth 1:00:50
Well, this one actually has a chance to be a little bit more competitive in the sense that Manny Pacquiao has never really fought above 147 Conor McGregor hadn’t been fought at 145 in what four years? I’m like that. Yeah. Right. So this is going to be interesting to see where they decide on this weight class it and i think you know, depending on if if Manny Pacquiao decides to draw him down closer today 145 range? You know, I don’t know. It got to be interesting.

John Keyes 1:01:21
Well, number he got McGregor one the first belt at featherweight. Yeah. And, you know, that’s a lot of power. He’s gonna be packing.

George Stallworth 1:01:32
But he hasn’t voted for the week in

John Keyes 1:01:35
how long? Yeah, sure. Yeah, he had a couple of hundred million reasons why not to do that.

Ryan Smith 1:01:42
And many

George Stallworth 1:01:44
will be advantageous for him to get many to come up in weight. Um, and I think that will make it a much more competitive fight in some senses, but I don’t know. Well, and many, many is a little you know, longer than mine. I’m sorry. Keep cutting, you know, reach into the mic. And then I go, man is a little long in the tooth though. How many now?

John Keyes 1:02:07
At

Ryan Smith 1:02:16
41 years old. 41 years old. He’s not

John Keyes 1:02:18
he is not younger than us. Okay. Was 41 years old?

Ryan Smith 1:02:27
Is 41 years old?

George Stallworth 1:02:28
My age.

John Keyes 1:02:36
Okay, so yeah, he is only 41 years old. Look at him. Oh, yeah.

Ryan Smith 1:02:46
So let’s speed this up. Because what I want to get to is the fact that Conor McGregor announced this, and they asked Dana White about it. And Dana White was like, Listen, this dude is retired. And you know, and Conor McGregor is like, Listen, I tried to fight in the UFC. After I beat beat cowboy Sironi. I told Dana White that I wanted to fight again. Right right away. And Dana White didn’t schedule the fight. Of course, Dana White’s like no Conor McGregor had opportunities to fight but he didn’t want to fight. So Conor McGregor showed the dmws

Unknown Speaker 1:03:25
good.

Ryan Smith 1:03:28
So after UFC 253 Dana White is like, Listen, everybody knows that you don’t. It’s man code stuff. You don’t show the dmws you don’t. You don’t talk about what it is that we’re in what? You know what we’re talking about. You don’t show people you know. Um, so I wanted to get your Dana White. So, so yeah. What do you feel? You feel Conor McGregor should have showed the dmws he think he should have that was a line that shouldn’t have been crossed?

George Stallworth 1:04:03
No. I think he pulled Dana skirt up and rightfully so. Well.

John Keyes 1:04:12
I mean, it’s like this if data was was on the up and up, if he was being honest. And then Connor would throw out the throughout the diems like that, then that’s one thing. Okay. But if you’re lying, and he’s challenging you to show some receipts, come with the receipts, show your tax returns. Oh, wow. All the tax returns.

Ryan Smith 1:04:36
So, but here’s the thing, right? Let’s go back to the receipts analogy. You can show the receipts but sometimes the receipts have other things on them. That needs to be redacted.

Unknown Speaker 1:04:49
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George Stallworth 1:04:53
when you call that man a liar. When you said that Conor McGregor was not speaking truthfully about whatever it was. You expose yourself to be out it right there. Mm hmm. If you remember, Dana, Dana is famous for doing this. He did the same thing to john Jones. He’s done the same thing to several other fighters in this league, who had issues when fighting are not taking fights allegedly when he’s offered them. And I think they talked about it. In this case, they’re hoping that you know, one of the, the Fertitta brothers will come back in and smooth relationship over with Connor and they’ll get that that get things back on track. This is not the first time that Dana and Connor have actually had words and not been in a friendly zone with each other. So

John Keyes 1:05:41
yeah, that was the reason why he retired The first time was because they had a spat. But what lobby what was in the locals in the DM? Was it like he got out as an Eskimo brother or something like that?

Ryan Smith 1:05:52
No, no. So Oh, what was what was in the Dr.

George Stallworth 1:05:58
Pile? Right? We need to drop the conspiracy theory drop out.

Ryan Smith 1:06:07
What what was in the DMS mainly was Connor was like, Well, let me fight Diego Sanchez. And and and and, and Dana White responds and says, Listen, they’re gonna they would yank our promoters license if we scheduled you to fight Diego Sanchez, you know, which is which is, but it’s a disparaging remark today. Oh, Sanchez saying you would want to get Diego Sanchez so that those conversations about how Dana White actually perceives his other fighters in this kind of context, is one that probably he would have wanted to keep under wraps. Right.

George Stallworth 1:06:43
You don’t there’s another solution in text. Thank you.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:06:48
Everybody knows that. But there’s another solution to this. actually having a ladder that matters so that there’s no question of calling out fights. The fights are just based on ranking?

George Stallworth 1:07:02
Well, no, because Conor McGregor is not a fighter that fights rank people. He’s a guy right now. That’s looking for big money, fights and willing to give big money fights.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:07:14
Well, that’s the problem with the UFC, his current strategy. If you just go down the line, you don’t have to worry about hidden text messages or even beyond that. You skip this whole step by having a president of the UFC that is trustworthy and doesn’t speak against his own fighters.

Ryan Smith 1:07:32
Well, to add insult to injury, um, Conor McGregor reached out to Deus employee and offered him a fight. Because, you know, the Deus employee wasn’t happy with the UFC. Because they wouldn’t pay him for the Tony Ferguson fight. And then, you know, Michael Chandler comes in and then they want him to fight that but he’s like, that wouldn’t be fair to Tony Ferguson. So Conor McGregor offers a a charity fight that he would put up 500 K to Dustin place charity. If and if they if he would go to Dublin and fight Conor McGregor, Conor offer to pay his entire family expenses traveling to Dublin to put on this charity event. And it really is throwing you know kind of shade at the UFC again, because we know that the UFC has been trying to book Dustin boy a, and they just simply won’t give him what I’m assuming since 500,000 was thrown out. What would what boy was asking for.

John Keyes 1:08:32
So why is it that Conor just just doesn’t go ahead and create his own fighting his own fighting promotion? Because it’s coming.

Unknown Speaker 1:08:39
It’s

Ryan Smith 1:08:42
coming I think it’s coming but I think that he you know, he has he has hundreds of millions but he doesn’t have billions Yeah,

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:08:54
yet we just keep paying for these fights and soon enough

George Stallworth 1:08:57
No, get this Manny Pacquiao fight I guarantee it’s got

John Keyes 1:09:02
I’m pretty sure that if comment if comments out there and said all right, I’m gonna I need investors for this fight promotion. Who’s in? Yeah, I think I think you know, the like, you think he would have a good chance, but he’s pretty good friends with the Fertitta brothers so you know, they, they they got a had a nice check written it down from you know, W What is it w w w w me IMG Yeah.

George Stallworth 1:09:28
Yeah. So they, if I was him, I’d be calling up my friend Lorenzo. Yeah.

Ryan Smith 1:09:36
All right. So so that that’s an interesting one. DC trolling Jon bones Jones. So of course,

John Keyes 1:09:42
drink, drink. I know.

Ryan Smith 1:09:47
It’s in the run sheet. That’s why at the beginning, y’all were like, oh, john, john. JOHN is bringing up john Jones again. It’s like, no, it’s in the run sheet. So I think it was today after john Jones. Watch the Thiago Santos. Dominic Ray as Dominic rats fight against yawn block of it, john Jones says, should I get Should I come back and get my my belt back? And the fans got all excited. And so Daniel Cormier called john Jones today and said, well, that’s odd. You wouldn’t fight Dominick Reyes again, even though that was the next fight for you. But the moment you’re gone, Dominick Reyes gets knocked out. Now you’re talking about bringing your belt back, perhaps you were running.

John Keyes 1:10:31
Thank you. Thank you, whatever from coming from the jilted lover.

George Stallworth 1:10:40
That’s coming from the jilted lover and everyone that john Jones has fought twice. He decimated him the second time,

John Keyes 1:10:48
but he ran scared. I’ll say it, he writes. Because I’m sorry. So let me get this straight. All right. They say, okay, you’re getting ready to fight Dominic reds all sudden, you’re like, ah, I think I’m gonna go. He bores me. I’m going to go go to two heavyweight. And then john goes in there. make short work of them and then all sudden, he’s like, oh, maybe I should come back. That’s running scared. Okay. No, he said

George Stallworth 1:11:21
stay out up again. JOHN Jones. One was like, Hey, UFC, you need to pay me more. Like y’all you’re not paying me McGregor money. You’re not paying me cubby money. You’re not paying me. Blame you’re not paying me the money I deserve. And I’ve given you the prime years of my life. undefeated standing here still strong. I don’t know

John Keyes 1:11:48
how to use lady grams, you know,

George Stallworth 1:11:51
dealt with jail dealt with pictograms dealt with DC twice actually three times now. Right.

John Keyes 1:11:58
Well, he skipped he missed he missed a

Unknown Speaker 1:12:00
second. We don’t see that. We’re gonna see the trilogy and heavyweight. Yeah, another reason why.

John Keyes 1:12:05
Yes, I

George Stallworth 1:12:06
told you what, on top of that. I’ve defended against Alex twice. Who else did he fight twice?

Ryan Smith 1:12:16
He’s only fought. I was cussing twice. And Daniel Cormier twice. Everyone else wants

George Stallworth 1:12:20
both times. He had a rematch against the guy. He really put the stamp on the initial when they finished. Why would you think the same thing wouldn’t happen with Dominic

John Keyes 1:12:30
dem? Didn’t why not just go ahead and do it?

Unknown Speaker 1:12:34
Because Okay, me. You’re not paying

John Keyes 1:12:36
me, john. Then you can make more money. You could I sit there and say I’m coming back. I should come back for it to 205 you get

Unknown Speaker 1:12:45
trolled.

George Stallworth 1:12:49
Guess what you’re gonna do if I come back to five? Because I’ve already wet you lips it anyway.

John Keyes 1:13:02
Touch that touch. I’m gonna bypass that.

George Stallworth 1:13:07
I know what you’re willing to do now that I’ve threatened a heavyweight move. You will pay me for light heavyweight?

John Keyes 1:13:14
Well, I don’t think so. I don’t think I don’t think I don’t think Dana and the Fertitta brothers are gonna do that. They want him to stay in them too. And I mean, it’s just like, I don’t see them wanting to go wanting him to go back to 205. Even though if he was to go back to 205. I if I was dying, I was like, yeah, you can come back as soon as you beat grass.

Ryan Smith 1:13:45
Yeah, no, no, because in the in the post fight press conference, Dana White said if john Jones, that the next fight for yon blazkowicz is Thiago Santos. But if john Jones came back, he was scheduled that fight. He That’s what he said. Dana White said it. So it’s it’s it’s I think it’s fair to say that dc dc may have a point. Oh,

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:14:14
well, so before we go down there, I just want to interject that there’s a very good chance that we’re taking a flippant tweet meant to just agitate a crowd and drum up more interest in what he’s currently doing. And we’re we may be adding another layer of analysis that he didn’t even think through because

George Stallworth 1:14:35
we know he likes stealing the shine after a guy wins.

Unknown Speaker 1:14:39
Exactly. Second

George Stallworth 1:14:40
UFC Main Event what he’s done that

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:14:42
that’s exactly right, this, this is less of a strategic john Jones. Like let’s be honest, john Jones isn’t strategic on Twitter. Fires stuff off. And so like, of all the things that he talked about, he is uh, he’s responding to fans and other fighters. Saying that Oh, he’s running scared he’s also responding to who was Yon saying? JOHN said that john was running scared and john Jones responds with I was taking months off to gain weight running scared like it in the hole in the context of it all. This isn’t a well calculated john Jones. This is a guy who’s drinking while watching UFC and responding just like any of us would just firing off dumb stuff without thought of how it’s gonna land. Now,

Ryan Smith 1:15:32
I actually tweeted back to john Jones after he put out that. Oh, and you know what he said to me? Nothing. I don’t even think he saw my, but let me tell you what I said. Let me tell you what I said. I said, I absolutely think he should come back. But don’t fight for the title. Do it as an exhibition. Because if you do it as an exhibition, you go in there and if you beat young black college, you don’t have to take the belt. You don’t have to defend the belt. But now you’ve poisoned the well for every champion in the light heavyweight, because everyone will be like, well, Yon you’re not really the champ because you lost the john Jones. But you’re carrying the belt, you have to defend it. If Yon loses. They’ll be like, well, you beat Yon but you did still not the champion till you beat john Jones. So you could have the entire light heavyweight division chasing you to legitimize their claim on the belt. Just by beating Yon Brockovich in an exhibition fight. That doesn’t mean anything.

John Keyes 1:16:33
That is the ultimate troll move right there.

Ryan Smith 1:16:37
From the minds of rinomhota. Man, you don’t get that. None of y’all get that reference.

Unknown Speaker 1:16:46
Nope, nope.

George Stallworth 1:16:48
George. Do I’m too busy looking at style benders latest posts on Instagram. All right. Literally, he has posted a video of Polo costume. In training apparently. I think it’s a joke to some degree. But when you guys get a chance you need to go watch this. Is he being trained by Josh Fabian?

Apparently during during training, Paula hired a guy to look like is he run around the cage? Yeah. And this guy had I guess what would you call it a dyed hair the whole night and polishes beating? Have y’all seen it? Yeah, yeah, I may have seen it right. Yeah. So yeah, um,

Ryan Smith 1:17:29
it came out it came out before the fight. So um, so yeah, it was one of those things where he was trolling Israel out of Sanya saying that is your address on your runs. And so, you know, this is what he was gonna do to easy running. Um, let’s go ahead and go to the fight card.

Alright, this is the fight card. This is where we look at the fights that are coming up this weekend. UFC fight island for home versus alldata. Saturday’s October 3 2020. The fires forum and fight Island in Abu Dhabi, UAE. We’ve got five fights on the card. first fight is dusko to dorell Vic versus dequan towns in second fight is Tom breeze versus kB bhullar. Fight I’m excited about is Jermaine Duran dummy versus Julianna Pena. I spoke about this on Saturday night, you know, Giuliana opinion was an up and comer on the Ultimate Fighter under the tulia tutelage of a miesha Tate. Then she got injured and you know, she’s having to work our way back. You’re going to Castro versus Carlos Felipe. And then finally, the main event of the evening, Holly home versus Irene Aldana. So we’re gonna make flash fight pics I’d like for us to do. Um, let’s do Jermaine de randamie versus Julianna Pena. We’ll start with you, George. Who you got

George Stallworth 1:19:07
the randamie

Ryan Smith 1:19:08
Okay. Very cool. Collect you.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:19:13
King, educated Kitt a guest here and going with Coach. It’s just been a while since I’ve seen these two.

Ryan Smith 1:19:18
All right. And then john Key’s

John Keyes 1:19:22
likewise, I’m gonna go with random eight. Just Just on history sake. You know, I wanna I haven’t seen any fights in Wow. Don’t get me wrong. Oh, Julianna Pena is a game opponent like she’s definitely entitled contention. Even now, she’s been off now for how long round like

Ryan Smith 1:19:43
years, maybe even longer than that because I think she got injured. She was fighting and she was making her way up the ladder and then in training some some jerk of a of a guy in their camp. Got a little bit too rough with her blew up. Her ACL or MTL and her

John Keyes 1:20:02
I remember that now I remember that Yeah.

Ryan Smith 1:20:06
And so then after that she ended up having a baby and so she she did the mother thing for a while so she’s kind of had a lot of life things going on but she’s now getting back in the ring she’s also done a little commentary I think with with Invicta perhaps or another one of these promotions that that feature women fighters, but she’s coming back. I think it’s a great opportunity for her to see how well she matches up against someone like Jermaine Duran me but for me, I like the known entity of Jemaine Duran to me

George Stallworth 1:20:36
that’s a big task for her step in the right back and against Jemaine that’s she literally is being tossed out to the wolves just to see how she’ll do. That’s why I’m going with Jemaine on this. Yeah. And then on top of that Jemaine demand some very what’s the word? I wouldn’t call her a less than moral fight moral fighter, but she, she has no scruples when it comes to late hits, firing off it at places that you know other firefighters wouldn’t. And I would expect Jemaine is going to target that knee. Oh, wow. Watch that. We sweep the leg.

Ryan Smith 1:21:10
All right in the coast.

George Stallworth 1:21:11
What is what I would advise my fighter to do?

Ryan Smith 1:21:18
Wow, I did not characterize you that way.

George Stallworth 1:21:22
I’m not gonna play with you Julian. I know what you’re capable of. out of here in the first round player. Hey,

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:21:30
there you have it. Those plays no games

John Keyes 1:21:33
on the vigilante side

George Stallworth 1:21:34
of the game this jockey says if you step into the rain, you’re saying you are fishing like we all find out how fit you ought to fight. Hey,

John Keyes 1:21:43
I love it.

George Stallworth 1:21:46
Nobody said anything about Lizzie i mean but is he going after Paulo’s leg we all saw the the cupping welts on his on his legs you you knew that’s a recovery thing that tells me that he was trying for whatever reason to help his leg heal from something. And what is it do leg kick city

John Keyes 1:22:09
word out and I was I was applauding his his brutality on it. All right,

George Stallworth 1:22:16
I think we’re gonna see Jemaine de randamie go after that knee somehow. Some way some shape, some form some fashion.

Ryan Smith 1:22:24
All right, you’re going to Castro versus Carlos Felipe. JOHN, who you got

John Keyes 1:22:32
come back to me and I’ll tell you

Ryan Smith 1:22:35
what, you want to wait to the way the face

John Keyes 1:22:37
off? Yeah, I’m still kind of hard to type. You’re in the Castro with two fingers here.

George Stallworth 1:22:47
I remember your gun facing Walt Harris not too long ago. And he also fought against who’s the in the NFL player that’s in the league now. Greg, Greg. Greg Hardy. I didn’t have a fight against him as well.

Ryan Smith 1:22:58
I don’t know if he did or not. But you’re going to cast her one. I think his last fight against someone that we did not think he was going to win.

George Stallworth 1:23:06
He’s he’s a pretty game opponent. Yeah, I want to say I think he fought um I don’t know. I can’t remember the guys name. He just said it. The NFL player

John Keyes 1:23:17
Ricardo. Hardy. He lost.

George Stallworth 1:23:19
Greg Hardy. My apologies. Greg do not come Come at me with the smoke. But from what I’ve seen of your good man, I’m not familiar with Carlos Philippe. I’m rolling with you again on this one, bro.

John Keyes 1:23:29
Yeah, I’m a roll with your gun as well, because he’s only lost once. And it was against Greg Hardy and his decision. Everything else he’s knocking people out he’s only had one other unanimous decision that he won. But the rest of them have been kales and TK O’s

Ryan Smith 1:23:48
Yeah, and Carlos Felipe hasn’t been in the league for very long his his looks like his only fight was against Sergei speedback where he where he lost the via majority decision so I’m gonna go with the with the organ de Castro as well let you gonna jump on this train or you’re gonna you’re gonna defy the odds.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:24:10
I sense just because I don’t believe in choosing the same fighters due for personal reasons. But

George Stallworth 1:24:19
Casey, before you go there, I just want to remind you, they our main event in yoga, and that main event. So that that speaks volumes when the UFC says you know what, we’re gonna let you call me behind Holly. And nobody knows Carlos Philippe.

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:24:37
Yeah, that’s that’s a fact. I regret my decision, but it’s my decision.

Ryan Smith 1:24:44
And I appreciate that in the main event of the evening, Holly home versus Irene alldata. Um, who you got coach.

George Stallworth 1:24:54
This one is hard, man. Cuz from what I understand. I haven’t seen Irene fight. I know. She beat What’s the girl that just won this past week? Kitt Caitlyn in the era here. Yep. And from what I’m saying Irene is like a 19 time world champion in boxing, something like that. Yeah. So this one is hard because Holly is well is a top notch boxer. I’m gonna go with Holly just off the fact that Holly has been in these positions where she’s been the main event in the UFC, you know, multiple times before as opposed to Irene. I think, um, but Irene has been on a tear from what I understand. Yes, sir. But I’m rolling with Holly. I think she gets it done and finishes Irene.

Ryan Smith 1:25:38
All right, Casey,

George Stallworth 1:25:40
he got dropped handy, because I get the feeling my co host here are going to bet against me and I want this crow button ready. Next week.

Ryan Smith 1:25:50
I will have it ready.

Unknown Speaker 1:25:52
I’m

Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:25:55
I’m torn on Holly. Like See that? I’m torn on that one just because she can show up different from fight to fight. And I don’t know how much more she’s got left to advance. So I think we’ve seen Holly Oh, what what’s going on? Like how does Alia 38 hold though? Let’s be real because her long boxing career and then trying to transition to MMA. Like I don’t think that she’s old for a fighter. I think she’s just been in this game. Yeah. So yeah, I gotta stick with you on this one coach.

Ryan Smith 1:26:36
All right, john.

John Keyes 1:26:38
Alright, so compared to last six fights with between each fighter here. Stay tuned for style and everybody. I’m Holly Holmes been 5050 she’s one three. She’s lost three. Irene is only last one and last six. Those are monsters.

Ryan Smith 1:27:00
Yeah. Amanda Nunez Cyborg. Yeah. And Jermaine Duran me.

John Keyes 1:27:05
Yes, monster. Okay, just reminding you that.

George Stallworth 1:27:09
Y’all must have forgot

Ryan Smith 1:27:10
and Valentina Shevchenko.

John Keyes 1:27:12
That’s seven. That’s seven. Yes, he did lose that actually. She had she had a skit there where she lost, lost ameesha take them Valentina Shevchenko. And then Jermaine Duran to me so she the only time she’s getting beat is by monsters literally. I’m gonna look to I’m gonna look to Holly home to have the the experience of being in the main event. I think that’s gonna be our saving grace. I think this is first time for Irene being at the Super Bowl. So she might she might have a little bit of an adrenaline dump so it might not be her night. I’m going for Holly home. Not her first time at the Superbowl but

George Stallworth 1:27:52
UFC wise is, you know, I mean, don’t get me wrong. I read his game.

John Keyes 1:27:59
I read the champ is had championships. Okay, but they were not UFC championships. That’s why I tell people. She’s Invictus. She’s former Invicta bantamweight champion. Okay. Guess what?

George Stallworth 1:28:18
Not UFC. I’m just saying man. under estimate somebody gets coming out different leagues and having done different things and you don’t think you got to remember is like, Irene has been in the UFC now for four, five years so even though you know her first time really main event in something steel she she’s, I wouldn’t sleep on it, but I think Holly’s gonna pull this one out.

Ryan Smith 1:28:42
Yeah, I’m gonna go Holly home to I’m gonna go Holly home to it. It’s just one of those things where I respect the talent that Holly home has faced. I’m really and George George looked at me sideways whenever I said it on Saturday night. I think that if you want to get Holly home out, you’re gonna have to you’re gonna have to bring her to the ground and wrestle with her. If you’re gonna just stand in bang with Holly Holm you’re gonna have problems and and so I don’t see Irene al Donna taking Holly home to the ground and making this a grappling or wrestling match. So in that case, I like Holly home. She’s just so big and so strong that I don’t think that Irene is going to be physically able to deal with Holly Holmes his strength, her cardio and and the experience that she brings to the ring. Let’s go ahead and wrap this up. Follow us on social media on Instagram. I am at combat sports talk.

John Keyes 1:29:42
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Ryan Smith 1:29:46
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Kelechi Onyebuchi 1:29:48
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Ryan Smith 1:29:51
And George.

George Stallworth 1:29:53
Just find me. Just underscore underscore we’ll see

Ryan Smith 1:30:00
I got an update on the run sheet. It’s updated now.

Unknown Speaker 1:30:03
Really?

Ryan Smith 1:30:04
Yes. Because it is okay. Look at that. I did that for you. You can find it on our website. You welcome. You’re welcome. You can find us on our website at www combat sports talk comm or any of your favorite podcasting platforms, which is what we have listed up here. Shout out to MMA junkie MMA fighting MMA mania, bloody elbow and the intelligent defense discussion group. All the other sites where we get our stories for the show, and where a lot of the discussions happen on that intelligent defense discussion group. On behalf of john Key’s George g money Stallworth and Collette he only a Buchi. I am Ryan Smith, reminding you to keep your hands up, your chin tucked and throw bombs. We’ll catch you next time.

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